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ltl/fb 03-19-2013 06:45 PM

Re: Top 20
 
Again with the only 4. I didn't look, so I suppose there may be 5 on each but whatev.

dtb 03-19-2013 11:51 PM

Re: Hank admits he has inner conflicts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 477655)
My dermatologist is a woman. For the most part it was a nice doctor patient relationship: but when I was in China my balls started to itch. I wasn't sure if it was a dry skin thing or a Chinese crotch rot fungus thing. I went to her, and walked in w/o issue. I was mature enough to let a female doc look at my junk. I have to admit I was nervous I'd pop wood, but still ready for it.

I didn't go woody. She seemed blown away by it though. She wore these weird googles in, like she needed to de-sexualize the visit. Whatever.

A month ago I realized I had a skin tag on my scrotum. I thought about asking my GP to rec a male dermo, but I realized that was a wimp move, wrong on lots of levels.

So I googled "removing your skin tags at home." I cut the thing off with a nail clipper, cuz I just couldn't go back in there.

Is this the new Picasso?

dtb 03-19-2013 11:54 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 477662)
The best thing about getting old: The only care you have about farting in public is whether or not this will be the 1 in 10 times when you get an "uh-oh" surprise.

My former husband and a colleague of his would advertise the occurrence of this, um, phenomenon with the shorthand, "I gambled and lost, dude."

Pithy, no?

Hank Chinaski 03-20-2013 08:02 AM

Re: Hank admits he has inner conflicts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtb (Post 477702)
Is this the new Picasso?

Exactly. You would think the hoi polloi would have learned to trust me by now.

Pretty Little Flower 03-20-2013 10:47 AM

For Atticus
 
Pomplamoose's Nataly Dawn: I'd star in a porno called "The Crack of Dawn"

http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenois..._interview.php

Fist of an angry god, indeed.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-20-2013 11:00 AM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 477687)
Sebby, are you really going to ignore this distress call?

I've never understood the notion cooking and enjoying yourself in the recommended debauched manner are mutually exclusive.

Putting aside St. Patrick's Day is no day for cooking anything (culinary incompetence being as essentially Irish as a Jameson's/Guinness car bomb), if you're cooking, why is it assumed you're not imbibing heartily?

I take every opportunity I can to cook during parties. Cooking drunk isn't fucking drunk, but it isn't cleaning toilets drunk, either. Think of the benefits of cooking while saucing and socializing:

1. You'll try all the crackpot recipes you'd never attempt normally;
2. You've a home full of guinea pigs on which to test dishes;
3. If you fuck it up, you blame the drink; and
4. You've an easy exit from every boring conversation ("Oh, shit. Gotta run. Something smells like it's burning.")

Fucking's the best thing any human can be doing. Eating and drinking come second (not necessarily in that order). You can't properly stir a balsamic/merlot/garlic/ginger reduction in flagrante delicto
(I guess you could while receiving fellatio, but that's only for pros like Flower), but you can do so with a glass of scotch in your hand. And you can definitely do so, even if you're so drunk you've forgotten to turn on the stove, while stirring the sauce to avoid your brother in law who wants to talk about the dry spots in your lawn he can see through the bay window in the living room.

"You know... I got TruCare for my lawn, and we were worried the chemicals would get the dogs sick. But it didn't. Well, at least not yet... And boy, did those spots go away. The give you a rebate, too. Think it only cost us $600 for the summer. Or maybe it was $700? Honey! Honey, how much was TruCare?--"

Pretty Little Flower 03-20-2013 11:30 AM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 477706)
I've never understood the notion cooking and enjoying yourself in the recommended debauched manner are mutually exclusive.

Putting aside St. Patrick's Day is no day for cooking anything (culinary incompetence being as essentially Irish as a Jameson's/Guinness car bomb), if you're cooking, why is it assumed you're not imbibing heartily?

I take every opportunity I can to cook during parties. Cooking drunk isn't fucking drunk, but it isn't cleaning toilets drunk, either. Think of the benefits of cooking while saucing and socializing:

1. You'll try all the crackpot recipes you'd never attempt normally;
2. You've a home full of guinea pigs on which to test dishes;
3. If you fuck it up, you blame the drink; and
4. You've an easy exit from every boring conversation ("Oh, shit. Gotta run. Something smells like it's burning.")

Fucking's the best thing any human can be doing. Eating and drinking come second (not necessarily in that order). You can't properly stir a balsamic/merlot/garlic/ginger reduction in flagrante delicto
(I guess you could while receiving fellatio, but that's only for pros like Flower), but you can do so with a glass of scotch in your hand. And you can definitely do so, even if you're so drunk you've forgotten to turn on the stove, while stirring the sauce to avoid your brother in law who wants to talk about the dry spots in your lawn he can see through the bay window in the living room.

"You know... I got TruCare for my lawn, and we were worried the chemicals would get the dogs sick. But it didn't. Well, at least not yet... And boy, did those spots go away. The give you a rebate, too. Think it only cost us $600 for the summer. Or maybe it was $700? Honey! Honey, how much was TruCare?--"

For Christ's sake, man, it doesn't take a pro. You can receive fellatio, properly stir the reduction, and have a glass of scotch. Hell, with a little practice, you can receive fellatio, stir the reduction, take a vaporizer hit of sticky chronic, and wash it down with a little cask strength Laphroaig. It's time for you to stop dwelling on the inadequacies of your past. From now one, you should exclusively look forward to the limitless possibility of the future.

"He broke the mirrors off his Cadillac, 'cuz he doesn't like it looking like he looks back."

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-20-2013 11:37 AM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 477706)
I've never understood the notion cooking and enjoying yourself in the recommended debauched manner are mutually exclusive.

Putting aside St. Patrick's Day is no day for cooking anything (culinary incompetence being as essentially Irish as a Jameson's/Guinness car bomb), if you're cooking, why is it assumed you're not imbibing heartily?

I take every opportunity I can to cook during parties. Cooking drunk isn't fucking drunk, but it isn't cleaning toilets drunk, either. Think of the benefits of cooking while saucing and socializing:

1. You'll try all the crackpot recipes you'd never attempt normally;
2. You've a home full of guinea pigs on which to test dishes;
3. If you fuck it up, you blame the drink; and
4. You've an easy exit from every boring conversation ("Oh, shit. Gotta run. Something smells like it's burning.")

Fucking's the best thing any human can be doing. Eating and drinking come second (not necessarily in that order). You can't properly stir a balsamic/merlot/garlic/ginger reduction in flagrante delicto
(I guess you could while receiving fellatio, but that's only for pros like Flower), but you can do so with a glass of scotch in your hand. And you can definitely do so, even if you're so drunk you've forgotten to turn on the stove, while stirring the sauce to avoid your brother in law who wants to talk about the dry spots in your lawn he can see through the bay window in the living room.

"You know... I got TruCare for my lawn, and we were worried the chemicals would get the dogs sick. But it didn't. Well, at least not yet... And boy, did those spots go away. The give you a rebate, too. Think it only cost us $600 for the summer. Or maybe it was $700? Honey! Honey, how much was TruCare?--"

Damn, this is a fine breath of fresh air after the geriatric sharting posts of the last day. Sounds like you should only invite your brother in law to large gatherings, though, ones big enough so he can find a nice CPA to talk with off in a corner somewhere. Alternatively, can I suggest you play the music louder?

Atticus Grinch 03-20-2013 11:47 AM

Re: For Atticus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 477705)
Pomplamoose's Nataly Dawn: I'd star in a porno called "The Crack of Dawn"

http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenois..._interview.php

Fist of an angry god, indeed.

Relevant to my interests!

Icky Thump 03-20-2013 11:57 AM

Re: For Atticus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 477705)
Pomplamoose's Nataly Dawn: I'd star in a porno called "The Crack of Dawn"

http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenois..._interview.php

Fist of an angry god, indeed.

She is incredibly cute. Until she opens her mouth. For singing.

ThurgreedMarshall 03-20-2013 01:03 PM

Re: So
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 477699)
I've not read up on the details of the whole Steubenville thing. From the bits I've gathered, two football players did terrible things to an unconscious girl, documented it on their cell phones, and then a whole bunch of people talked about it without reporting it.

Whatever, that's not really the point. The point I want to get at is where Jezebel goes in talking about some thoughts on the case from Henry Rollins (which are generally good).

Where I think Doug Barry, writing for Jezebel goes a bit off the rails is in stating the issue in terms of female actors being "reduced to a mere assemblage of sexualized body parts." Anyone who has relationships with women, for example, can tell you that a woman can be both a sexual object and fully respected and empowered at the same time. Anyone who has clicked on Thurgreed's links can tell you how an image of a woman can be "commodified" and "sexualized" without women being commodified and sexualized.

I think it's convenient to blame "the media" and "sexualized culture" but I think that misses a big part of the problem, and, by assigning primary blame to amorphous and unaccountable forces, let's a lot of people off the hook. What is it about kids like the rapists here or their environment that allows them to (apparently) miss half of the equation? Why do they get only the object part and not the respect part?

And maybe it's just another manifestation of our sex-negative culture that teaches young people like these rapists that sex is a thing that is shameful rather than respectful.

Or maybe, as Rollins suggests, it's really about power and control, in which case, what does sexualized media have to do with it?

You raise some interesting questions. I do believe that we live in a culture where sex is a commodity and that leads to a collective thought process that devalues women.

However, the question I wonder most about is, "At what point does appreciation of the female form turn into devaluation?" I love women and the female form. I also respect women very much. I do not criticize women who appreciate the male form, so I like to think I have no double standard. I recognize that the relative positions of power between men and women and the objectification and commoditization (is that a word?) of women in our society means that my Top 20 posts are a product of the problem* or, worse yet, part of the problem.

So, what the fuck am I saying? Not much so far. I think the media and advertisers and popular culture don't just program people. They give us what we want. We program them. And what we want is more of what we already have. It's self-fulfilling. I love sexy women. I spend money on things that feature sexy women. I'm provided with more sexy women.

But I have never in my life thought it was okay to assault and degrade a woman in the manner those kids did. I am fairly certain that I would do my best to put a stop to something like that if I were present. I think what happened was absolutely disgusting. I'd like to think I was raised right and can balance out my appreciation for sex and the female form with a healthy respect of women. I can't say unequivocally that these kids weren't raised right because I have no idea. But I'm sure they were not raised right. And I'm sure there isn't much oversight in their lives. And I'm sure their status as athletes in a town where people love their football players and have little else, means they have had license to act like assholes with little repurcussion. All of those things, combined with our culture which glorifies men who have had a lot of sex and shames women who do the same combine to create situations like this.

And this isn't new. This type of shit surely happened when I was growing up and back then, there was no such thing as social networks and the internet. Back then you were probably assaulted and if you wanted to hold someone accountable you were labeled a whore in a slam book or whispered about and the effect was the same.

So, people keep asking for a solution. It's easy to say that parents need to be more responsible or to raise their children right. Never happen. It's easy to say that we shouldn't make tits and ass commodities. Never happen. Maybe the answer is required sex education classes that cover these topics. Maybe police need to speak to children at schools about these types of crimes and how they destroy people. There are no hard and fast answers to this shit.

But I'll tell you this: The next person that says, "These boys' lives are ruined," should have their face smashed in, because they forfeit their futures when they assaulted that girl, talked about pissing on her unconscious body for money, sent videos and photos of her around to everyone and laughed their asses off while doing it.

TM

*In that I am as indoctrinated into thinking that it is okay to post photos of tits and ass as any advertiser who thinks it's okay to use tits and ass to sell beer.

ThurgreedMarshall 03-20-2013 01:04 PM

Re: Top 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 477701)
Again with the only 4. I didn't look, so I suppose there may be 5 on each but whatev.

I didn't realize your first response was a serious one. Yes. Five in each.

TM

ltl/fb 03-20-2013 01:56 PM

Re: Top 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 477714)
I didn't realize your first response was a serious one. Yes. Five in each.

TM

It wouldn't have been a funny joke and it's an abysmal insult, but maybe my posting skills are in some now isolated part of my brain. And I think neurological repair is all over, so how it is now is pretty much how it's going to be.

Hank Chinaski 03-20-2013 02:00 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 477709)
For Christ's sake, man, it doesn't take a pro. You can receive fellatio, properly stir the reduction, and have a glass of scotch. Hell, with a little practice, you can receive fellatio, stir the reduction, take a vaporizer hit of sticky chronic, and wash it down with a little cask strength Laphroaig. It's time for you to stop dwelling on the inadequacies of your past. From now one, you should exclusively look forward to the limitless possibility of the future.

"He broke the mirrors off his Cadillac, 'cuz he doesn't like it looking like he looks back."

help an old man out..... my kid smokes, umm, tree (?), but his car never smells of smoke. Instead I find half empty bottles of musty smelling water. Is there some new bong replacement thing?

ThurgreedMarshall 03-20-2013 02:50 PM

Re: Top 20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 477715)
It wouldn't have been a funny joke and it's an abysmal insult, but maybe my posting skills are in some now isolated part of my brain. And I think neurological repair is all over, so how it is now is pretty much how it's going to be.

You post how you want to post. You always have. The only thing I've seen change is that you care how your posts come off. And you're not quite as "vocally" mean and opinionated, which we all miss.

TM


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