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pony_trekker 12-21-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
. . . so what arewe going to do aboout it?"
I can't resist that either.

taxwonk 12-21-2006 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
I can't resist that either.
I was trying to attract Gwinky. I got a real crush on her, eh.

Hank Chinaski 12-21-2006 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
The problem with taking him out because he knew what the consequences were is that, if you give in later, he's just as likely to learn that Dad will back down eventually, so he doesn't need to really pay attention to threats.

He clearly needs some sort of consequences. I'm just observing, on the basis of a combined 28 years of experience, that parents sometimes make threats they come to regret, and more is lost by sticking to your guns to prove you will than could be gained by sitting down and saying "okay, I made a threat that may seem extreme, but we have a real problem here that I can't and won't ignore, so what arewe going to do aboout it?"
I don't know enough about hockey, and how bad a stick is to comment on the incident.

But I do agree with Wonk that the "must follow through on all threats, even when I see reasons not to" becomes tougher and tougher as the kids get older and the consequences get more dramatic. I dropped specific threats about 12 for that reason.

Now I'm just mumble vaguely about how they'll be sorry.

Penske_Account 01-06-2007 01:06 PM

net nanny
 
Query for y'all:

My nephew turns 8 soon and whilst at his parents house over the holidaes I realised that they allow him to use the computer to get on the internet and yet, they have no parental monitoring/security software. So for his birthday, for his own safety and security I am considering getting "him" some of the same.

Any thoughts/recs on the best "net nanny" type of software set up????

regards from the corner office,

Penske

Secret_Agent_Man 01-12-2007 01:58 PM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Query for y'all:

My nephew turns 8 soon and whilst at his parents house over the holidaes I realised that they allow him to use the computer to get on the internet and yet, they have no parental monitoring/security software. So for his birthday, for his own safety and security I am considering getting "him" some of the same.

Any thoughts/recs on the best "net nanny" type of software set up????
Good Lord! You are the fun uncle. Let the boy see some boobies.

Now for my daughters -- ironclad net nanny software when the time comes. They won't even be able to e-mail anyone named Richard.

S_A_M

Penske_Account 01-15-2007 02:05 PM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Good Lord! You are the fun uncle. Let the boy see some boobies.

Now for my daughters -- ironclad net nanny software when the time comes. They won't even be able to e-mail anyone named Richard.

S_A_M
I checked with some granola munching friends, and that said that is a neo-sexist approach. No offence. What software will you use with your daughters?

Secret_Agent_Man 01-18-2007 11:34 AM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I checked with some granola munching friends, and that said that is a neo-sexist approach. No offence. What software will you use with your daughters?
I am indeed irretrievably protective and paternalistic, but I have no sons to generate intra-familial jealousy.

Despite my wise-ass comments I know nothing about net nanny software yet. (Except that Dad will have the password.) Our oldest is just learning how to use that tricky mouse in the games on www.playhousedisney.com, so I figure I have some time.

S_A_M

Hank Chinaski 01-19-2007 09:40 AM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I checked with some granola munching friends, and that said that is a neo-sexist approach. No offence. What software will you use with your daughters?
Couple of things- you will be shocked by the stuff kids are doing in various chats and diary pages and other crap- looking at porno is the least of your worries. the average 12 year old is doing stuff that would shock their parents. We got software that monitors everything that is done on a computer. We can see all chats, we know codes to all facebook pages, webpages, etc. From seeing things posted on our kids pages by other kids we probably know more about what our neighbors kids are doing than their parents do.

It's like taking the pill in the Matrix- I'm not sure we wouldn't have been better off not knowing lots of it. But it does help knowing when your kid is really heading into trouble.

Anyone who wants to know what to get PM me.

Penske_Account 01-19-2007 11:12 AM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Couple of things- you will be shocked by the stuff kids are doing in various chats and diary pages and other crap- looking at porno is the least of your worries. the average 12 year old is doing stuff that would shock their parents. We got software that monitors everything that is done on a computer. We can see all chats, we know codes to all facebook pages, webpages, etc. From seeing things posted on our kids pages by other kids we probably know more about what our neighbors kids are doing than their parents do.

It's like taking the pill in the Matrix- I'm not sure we wouldn't have been better off not knowing lots of it. But it does help knowing when your kid is really heading into trouble.

Anyone who wants to know what to get PM me.
[etd joke about Hank's kids-sorry :blush:]

anyway, apparently I am on ignore and am getting my PMs bounced back......please IM my facebook or myspace account.

regards,

P

Penske_Account 01-19-2007 02:26 PM

myspace (follow up)
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
So my lover's babysitter used her home computer to do the myspace thing while babysitting over the weekend and didn't erase the histoury.

Apparently, according to herspace, she is a "freak between the sheets".

Would it be inappropriate to "friend" her?

I am going out with the lady friend noted above again tonite after a short break. She is using the same babysitter noted above. Would it be wrong to install keystroke software on the computer to get a full grasp of what this "freak between the sheets" sitter is up to? (eg on email and IM) For research purposes only........

Hank Chinaski 02-10-2007 09:07 AM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
[etd joke about Hank's kids-sorry :blush:]

anyway, apparently I am on ignore and am getting my PMs bounced back......please IM my facebook or myspace account.

regards,

P
is your current facebook still the "18 year old Octaroon boy?"

Penske_Account 02-10-2007 11:32 AM

net nanny
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
is your current facebook still the "18 year old Octaroon boy?"
It's one of them, but not the primary. Try 15 year old "Hot4Teacher".

pony_trekker 02-22-2007 09:58 AM

It is better to be the wolf than the sheep . . .


http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/condi....ap/index.html


If the Bush FDA is putting a warning on ADHD drugs, can I ask the kindergarten teacher who insisted my kid go on these drugs to shove broken glass up her ass?

Secret_Agent_Man 02-22-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
If the Bush FDA is putting a warning on ADHD drugs, can I ask the kindergarten teacher who insisted my kid go on these drugs to shove broken glass up her ass?
I think there are warning labels about that too.

S_A_M

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 01:54 PM

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I'm not sure what we were thinking, but Baby dL No. 2 is on the way, due in August. The Babies dL will be only 19 months apart. Lord help us.

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I'm not sure what we were thinking, but Baby dL No. 2 is on the way, due in August. The Babies dL will be only 19 months apart. Lord help us.
Congratulations!

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Congratulations!
Thanks.

Anyone here have a Phil&Ted's E3 double stroller? I'm thinking of getting one and would love real-world feedback.

taxwonk 02-26-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I'm not sure what we were thinking, but Baby dL No. 2 is on the way, due in August. The Babies dL will be only 19 months apart. Lord help us.
Congratulations. Just remember to stop at two. The degree of difficulty increases exponentially after that.

Replaced_Texan 02-26-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
I'm not sure what we were thinking, but Baby dL No. 2 is on the way, due in August. The Babies dL will be only 19 months apart. Lord help us.
Congratulations! I'm 19 months older than my brother. It worked well for us.

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Congratulations. Just remember to stop at two. The degree of difficulty increases exponentially after that.
Why do people make these types of comments? (Uh, and how many do you have?)

As for the Phil & Ted's, I've heard a lot of good things about it, but mostly from moms on listservs rather than IRL. I also think it looks very cool, and I would have bought one after my daughter was born, but for not wanting to jinx anything by buying something for a second baby. The only negative points I have heard, though, are (1) that its size and weight render it a better neighborhood stroller than trunk of the car stroller, and (2) that as the toddler gets heavier, it seems like the lower seat might become uncomfortable.

As for point (1), there is no magic bullet stroller anyway, so later on you could get a MacClaren twin or similar lightweight double once #2 is old enough to sit up in it; and as for point (2), that may just be projection of an adult's idea of comfort and the kids don't really care (which some parents do report), and the real point of the double stroller for a toddler/infant pair is to have a place for #1 son to sit when he gets tired of running around.

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Congratulations. Just remember to stop at two. The degree of difficulty increases exponentially after that.
The master plan has always contemplated 3, so we'll see where that goes...

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Why do people make these types of comments? (Uh, and how many do you have?)

As for the Phil & Ted's, I've heard a lot of good things about it, but mostly from moms on listservs rather than IRL. I also think it looks very cool, and I would have bought one after my duaghter is born, but for not wanting to jinx anything by buying something for a second baby. The only negative points I have heard, though, are (1) that its size and weight render it a better neighborhood stroller than trunk of the car stroller, and (2) that as the toddler gets heavier, it seems like the lower seat might become uncomfortable.

As for point (1), there is no magic bullet stroller anyway, so later on you could get a MacClaren twin or similar lightweight double once #2 is old enough to sit up in it; and as for point (2), that may just be projection of an adult's idea of comfort and the kids don't really care (which some parents do report), and the real point of the double stroller for a toddler/infant pair is to have a place for #1 son to sit when he gets tired of running around.
Thanks, RP. We live in Center City Phila. and basically walk everywhere, so a neighborhood stroller is what we are after. I like that the e3 is basically no bigger than a single; plus, the fact that it has a lie-flat basinette will be ideal for the first few months of No. 2.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-26-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Why do people make these types of comments? (Uh, and how many do you have?)
Mostly to raise your ire.

Two is a fine start. Congratulations, AdL.

taxwonk 02-26-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Why do people make these types of comments? (Uh, and how many do you have?)

We do it to be helpful. Duh. (And I have two. I know how to take advice that's offered in the spirit of helpfulness.)

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-26-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
The master plan has always contemplated 3, so we'll see where that goes...
Anyone with a master plan for babies is destined to get triplets when trying for that last one . . .

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
We do it to be helpful. Duh. (And I have two. I know how to take advice that's offered in the spirit of helpfulness.)
Is there any advice that's not offered in the spirit of helpfulness? Even if there were, there is really only one way to take advice regarding one's reproductive plans.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 02-26-2007 04:17 PM

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Is there any advice that's not offered in the spirit of helpfulness?
Fuck off, skank?

Hepfully,

Ollie

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Fuck off, skank?

Hepfully,

Ollie
Are you asking me or telling me?

SEC_Chick 02-26-2007 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Thanks, RP. We live in Center City Phila. and basically walk everywhere, so a neighborhood stroller is what we are after. I like that the e3 is basically no bigger than a single; plus, the fact that it has a lie-flat basinette will be ideal for the first few months of No. 2.
Congrats!

Personally, if I were getting a double for kiddos of those ages, I would get a Baby Jogger City Series Double or a Mountain Buggy Urban Double (I have the MB single and it pushes like a dream). With kids that young the 2nd one will probably be in a stroller for a while yet. I really really looked into getting the P&T for the chicklet, in hopes of adding the double when number 2 came. I didn't like the total lack of storage in doubles mode and the pannier bags didn't do it for me. I vaguely remember some complaints about it getting tippy when the older one gets out depending on where you put them in toddler-toddler mode maybe??? However, saving $$ was obviously not my priority or I wouldn't have ended up with 3 strollers for 1 kid. I would check out the reviews on the stroller board at babybargains.com, as the people that frequent that board are extremely up on all of the ins and outs of the doubles options.

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by SEC_Chick
Congrats!

Personally, if I were getting a double for kiddos of those ages, I would get a Baby Jogger City Series Double or a Mountain Buggy Urban Double (I have the MB single and it pushes like a dream). With kids that young the 2nd one will probably be in a stroller for a while yet. I really really looked into getting the P&T for the chicklet, in hopes of adding the double when number 2 came. I didn't like the total lack of storage in doubles mode and the pannier bags didn't do it for me. I vaguely remember some complaints about it getting tippy when the older one gets out depending on where you put them in toddler-toddler mode maybe??? However, saving $$ was obviously not my priority or I wouldn't have ended up with 3 strollers for 1 kid. I would check out the reviews on the stroller board at babybargains.com, as the people that frequent that board are extremely up on all of the ins and outs of the doubles options.
This is a good site, too: http://strollers.baby-gaga.com/double-strollers.php

taxwonk 02-26-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
there is really only one way to take advice regarding one's reproductive plans.
With a notable lack of one's usual sense of humor and joie de vivre?

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Anyone with a master plan for babies is destined to get triplets when trying for that last one . . .
That's when i call that annoying shithead on the extreme makeover show to get a new house built.

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
With a notable lack of one's usual sense of humor and joie de vivre?
Oh, don't worry, I'm laughing.

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
That's when i call that annoying shithead on the extreme makeover show to get a new house built.
Make sure he builds a garage to fit your conversion van. A station wagon won't handle that load.

taxwonk 02-26-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Oh, don't worry, I'm laughing.
Good for you, cranky-pants.

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Make sure he builds a garage to fit your conversion van. A station wagon won't handle that load.
:-) Doesn't the M5 Touring have a 3rd row?

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Good for you, cranky-pants.
I WAS laughing until you followed the unwanted "advice" with a totally unnecessary hyphen. Good GOD, how much am I expected to take?

robustpuppy 02-26-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
:-) Doesn't the M5 Touring have a 3rd row?
On whose lap will the Swedish au pair sit?

taxwonk 02-26-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I WAS laughing until you followed the unwanted "advice" with a totally unnecessary hyphen. Good GOD, how much am I expected to take?
You're right. I am feeling suitably contrite, let me assure you. I apologize for my grammatic lapse.

Alex_de_Large 02-26-2007 05:02 PM

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On whose lap will the Swedish au pair sit?
She can follow in the z8.


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