Ladies, Do Not Do This
 

Actually, Leagl, it's "schtup."


Oh, wait. You were shortening stupid. nevemind.

Towards gender-neutral cuss words
 

Oh, don't be such a tit.:D

Anyone?
 

When I was in HS, it was the number one insult used among males. Of course, back then a slut was a girl who would fuck anyone and a cunt was a girl who would fuck anyone but you. So apparently the language has changed.

Towards a new topic
 

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Just because we have the right to swear here, doesn't mean we have to turn the derivation of swear words into the longest most overdone topic of all time.

n(fuckin dicks)cs

Towards a new topic
 

Baskin-Robbins is offering free ice cream tonight . . .

http://www.baskinrobbins.com/new/

Ladies, Do Not Do This
 

If I didn't know better, I'd say your wife and my wife are friends. Her college roommates (all 7 of them) do this shit all the time when they are together. It's so fucking annoying.

Fashion Causes Political Crisis in S.Korea
 

So nice of you to incorporate Not Bob's argument into yours after the fact.

Unfortunately, we still disagree on this:

"I have never, ever heard the word "cunt" used in a way that did not imply something negative about a woman sexually--usually, that she had stepped out her place and was acting like a guy--and with respect to women, sexual terms implying insult or potential harm are often used to put her back there."

Bullshit. Either you're putting too much meaning onto the word or you frequently imagine things.

Every time a woman is called out on her behavior is not an attempt to tell her she has stepped out of her place or is acting like a guy. That's insane. On the whole, when a woman acts like an ass, she gets treated like one, just like everyone else (including black people). The worse she acts, the harsher the insult.

Calling a woman a cunt doesn't necessarily imply "potential harm" and it doesn't refer to a woman's sexual activities. If I call you a cunt (I actually don't use that word, but let's assume I do), I'm not trying to put you back in your place and I don't think you're acting like a guy. I think you're acting like a complete asshole and the gender-specific term (a la "dick") for that is "cunt."

Now, I think in some cases, people who use the term intend to bring up the charged meaning of the word (GWNC/Not Bob's argument). But mere usage of the word does not go as far in my opinion as you think it does. Usage plus overt intent gets you there. And although the analogy Not Bob used (relating it to the word "nigger") is helpful in seeing how it might be used in some cases, it's not the same. "Nigger" is designed and used specifically to reference a certain part of our history. The intent is incorporated into the word. I don't think that's the case with the word "cunt."

TM

Towards a new topic
 

Okay. I propose a charity drive to raise funds to help Anna Nicole Smith buy the proper underwire support garments (or get the appropriate implant-deflating surgery) to support her enormous rack that is causing her such terrible back pain, thereby helping to alleviate her cleavage-induced Vicodin addiction. We could call it The BOOBS (Breasts On Overdrive Breaking Spine) Foundation.

p(feelin' her pain)j

Ladies, Do Not Do This
 

True confession time, my best friend in college and I would do this all the time (never "vag" or "whatev" though -- those are weird! and we were NOT, I repeat NOT weird! I do, however, admit to using "convo"), and we thought we were so hip -- in fact, I think we thought we invented the whole concept. Hmmm.

Anyhoo -- my friend was explaining to her boyfriend about our charming conversational convention (about how we lopped off syllables from words), and his response was, "Hmm, that's interesting, but what if it's only one syllable, like 'lame'?" She actually started to answer for a second. I think it was shortly thereafter that we seriously curtailed our use of this convention.

One remnant remains, however. And that is the word "natch" -- used only ironically, of course (sort of like "classy").

(If that doesn't call out plf, I don't know what will. I think he's scared of my princess dog.) What a pussy!

Towards gender-neutral cuss words
 

I would not take my cues for "acceptable" medieval slang from the Miller's tale (and I believe it was a reeve's wife getting the feel-up of her parts where the long hair hangs all adoun - a miller's wife and daughters were getting diddled by reeves in the Reeve's travelers-bed-swapping-tale). Chaucer was by all accounts a lovely man, but he could have a dirty mouth on him.

The main point of the Miller's tale was that it was so vulgar, obscene and unacceptable, both in language and subject, that the other pilgrims were horrified (amused, but horrified) and shut him up so the Knight could tell one that was prissy and chivalric but also disturbingly wrong. Also, the Miller told the tale to specifically insult the Reeve by calling his wife an unclean ho with a hot cunt that needed to be filled by many young men. (The characters hated each other.)

However, in a more general sense, the medievals were much less prudish about addressing sex, genitalia, shit, farting, vomit, bad breath, supperating pustules, the pleasures of drunkeness, the inability to keep erections (or get rid of them), the lack of satisfaction to be obtained from small cocks and other "vulgar," "obscene" or otherwise unacceptable things directly. We're still recovering from the damage done by Reformation and Victorian morals.

Towards gender-neutral cuss words
 

Well now you tell me. I guess this explains why I can't make any friends on my time travelling adventures.

Fashion Causes Political Crisis in S.Korea
 

No, no, no, no, no. That's all wrong. As any conversationally challenged person will tell you, the library is appropriately referred to as the "libe". (The "berry"?!? That is just RIDICULOUS!) :rolleyes:

Towards a new topic
 

Speaking of ANS, I saw a pic of her on E Online yesterday and she had light blue metallic eyeshadow all the way around her eyes. Can anyone explain why any woman (I think the particular crowd that likes the look is strippers) would think the eyeshadow under the eye look would be attractive? I just don't get it.

n(perhaps I'm not intended to be stripper-chic)cs

Fashion Causes Political Crisis in S.Korea
 

In my neighborhood growing up and in junior high, lots of kids called it the "liberry."

These were the same kids that called the player in goal in hockey or soccer, "goldie." As in, "Ooooh oooooh! I wanna be goldie!"

Thurgreed(doubts anyone else here had this experience)Marshall

Towards a Future Topic
 

http://cache.eonline.com/On/Holly/Im...ton.042103.jpg

May 4th at 9pm on E!
Everything you wanted to know about the Hilton sisters and more!!

Set your Tivos.

All the info is at www.eonline.com

Towards a new topic
 

We have an employee here who wears very very heavy eyeshadow. She is also extremely tall, so she stands out anyway.

I think back in the 80s people wore heavy eyeshadow right? But I cannot see why these days, when most people it seems want invisible or natural makeup, anyone would feel the need to wear so much eyeshadow. Not to mention she must spend a fortune on eyeshadow the way she goes through it.

So I can't explain it, I don't get it either. I think it looks very unattractive.

Ladies, Do Not Do This
 

Start?

;)

Fashion Causes Political Crisis in S.Korea
 

But if the n-word is not in fact intended that way by the speaker using it, it is still an unacceptable word. What makes the word an unacceptable is the way it's target can be expected to hear it, more than the specific (and unknowable) intent of the speaker. Your (correct) point about the n-word is that intent to bring up a certain part of black history can always be inferred, whether a user might argue that it wasn't intended or not, because, well, everyone knows what it means to the hearer given its historical baggage.

Everyone knows that about the c-word, too. The only question is, does the target of the insult's widely known understanding of the meaning matter? You say no. I say the fact that black people took the n-word "badly" used not to matter either; that was a result of the lack of power blacks had to assert their views on the subject. Surely the white people who used it did not have the right to define what black people were allowed to feel about it, and surely claims of different "intent," even if sincere in a specific instance, should have been met with the derision they eventually received.

And you're nuts if you don't think millenia of history (and widespread current practice) of women being the sexual and child-rearing posessions of men isn't inherently incorporated into the whole concept of verbally reducing a woman to her genitalia.

BR(I called you a "wetback," but I meant it to salute your excellent swimming skills)C

edited to insert a sarcasm siren after that last for the satire impaired

Ladies, Do Not Do This - Really Annoying Convo Terms
 

MR,

Since we're on this pet peeve of mine (like I need another), these are the most annoying things I hear from my wife's friends:

"He/she/it is so 'ON FIRE'"

- They use this to describe everything, even mundane shit. Is everything that great?

"Fabu"

-Taxwonk said it best - if your wife uses this, leave her.

"I live and die for her/him/it"

- Again, often used to discuss mundane shit, like "Your poodle is fabu... I just live and die for it" or "Bill just lives and dies for Mary". Hyperbole has no punch if its so overboard it becomes absurd.

"Grim"

- Everything that's not "fabu" is "grim".

When I was in school, the library was the "brary". I didn't care too much about that one because I never entered the building until midnight before exams and then only stayed for as long as it took to beg one of my wife's friends for her notes. Luckily, I was considered "fabu" so I got them. I'd have probably flunked if I were "grim".

Towards a new topic
 

Doesn't Barbie have painted on pale-blue eyeshadow? Perhaps she is the source of the stripper aesthetic, head-to-toe. And I think ads for eyeshadow are getting much more colorful--seems to be a disco-influenced revolt against the nude look so perhaps it's coming back. I think all the dark colors though just make someone look like she got punched in the eye.

BTW, your avatar is really disturbing.

A Question about Strippers
 

That reminds me of a conversation we had at a party recently:

If you can go to one of two strip clubs -- one upscale, the other skanky -- which do you choose and why?

Even(it was better than talking about the economy)Odds

FB Dreams
 

This is so weird, because I also had a dream about FBers last night. Mostly, it involved FBers that I have never met. It was so strange, because these people did not appear in my dream as I typically picture them in my head.

For instance, DebtSlave/BRC was there (with her daughter and some disney videos?!?!?!?) and she had short blond hair, rather than the short brown hair I typically picture her with. TM was there and he was a white guy. Both of them were very nice (almost too nice), which I imagine DS to be, but not TM.

Anyway, it was really weird. Oh, and it was a dinner party with a really odd seating arrangement. And, for some reason, everyone arrived there and left on yellow school buses.

I have no idea what this dream means, if anything. GWNC?

Ladies, Do Not Do This - Really Annoying Convo Terms
 

Sebby, your wife's friends should be quarantined.

We must stop that nonsense from spreading.

Anyone?
 

I've also heard this applied to males.

It also brings to mind the old SNL sketch, where Buck Henry was Lord Douchebag discussing his most recent invention with Lord Sandwich, et. al.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79tdouchebag.phtml

Spree: Transcript of Lord and Lady Douchebag sketch.

Lord Salisbury: Spoken like a true Douchebag. I have often heard the King speak of your family.. [ to Earl of Sandwich ] ..and of yours, as well: "Give me a Sandwich and a Douchebag, and there is nothing I cannot do."

Ladies, Do Not Do This
 

You mean like rim job?

A Question about Strippers
 

Funny you should mention that. I've heard tales of many associates at my firm frequenting strip clubs and their favorites are the mid-level ones (apparently). They don't like the really high end ones because they think the strippers are not adequately impressed by their lawyer status and the rules against touching are more strictly enforced. Of course they don't like the low end ones cause the chicks aren't hot enough. Leaving some midlevel ones where they feel like big shots when they get their lap dances and they basically get some sort of sex equivalent for their $$.

The whole thing is gross to me, but that is what they tell me...

n(lacking the equipment to fully understand)cs

FB Dreams
 

Were these regular buses or "short buses"?

spooky(just wonderin')fish

FB Dreams
 

And why did do many 'small bus' passengers wear helmets?



Yes, I know I'm going to hell. See y'all at the bar.

Anyone?
 

Also the difference between a ho' and a bitch. See Fear of a Black Hat.

FB Dreams
 

Despite all evidence to the contrary, the FBers arrived on regular buses.

Fashion Causes Political Crisis in S.Korea
 

I may have to find some citation to back me up but I think it actually goes back to burning people at the stake in the Middle Ages. But otherwise, absolutely correct in the sickening connotations.

Towards a Future Topic
 

The Hiltons each look like Christina Aguilera after a three month dexadrine/laxative bender.

Fashion Causes Political Crisis in S.Korea
 

Your doubts are misplaced. Not the "goldie" part, as hockey wasn't a sport that people paid any attention to or played in my area of the country. Just the liberry part.

Edited to say: "doubts are misplaced"? "as . . . wasn't"? Who stuck the stick up my ass?

AI and P. Diddy's band
 

Did I miss the AI convo?

Anyway, Clay has my vote.

Whatever happened to that P. Diddy show on MTV with the wannabe rappers? Who won?

Prancy redux
 

This very important question got lost in the discussion.

From my perspective (and avatar), I would interpret this to be intended as a compliment like you are sassy and cute. You know, like a little pony!:P

Towards gender-neutral cuss words
 

I think Robin Williams, under ferocious cross-examination by James Lipton on The Actor's Studio, said that his least favorite word is cunt, and his favorite word is pussy.

Puppies, robust and otherwise
 

The Displaced Dog is ten years old. According to the vet, he's in perfect health, and he's got probably another six or seven years left in him. I've been kicking around the idea of getting him a puppy to raise in his image before he gets too old to care about such things. My mom has a one-year-old dog/puppy that I've seen grow up, and the Displaced Dog LOVES playing with the puppy, so I do have a general idea of the what a new puppy would entail. The thing is, it's been ten years since I've had to take care of a puppy. I was still in college when I got the Displaced Dog, and I had a lot more time to spend on him. My rough plan is that I would try to crate the puppy for the first few weeks, move him into the closed off bathroom for the next few, then the kitchen, and then when he's fully housebroken he'd have the same access to the house as the Displaced Dog.

Has anyone gotten a puppy while working full time, with no spouse / live in / roommates? And if so, do you have pointers?

Assume the following:

1.) The Displaced Dog and I live alone. There are family members nearby (one of them works within two blocks of our house), and we are not adverse to the "It Takes a Village" theory, if that's what it takes to have a nicely socialized dog.

2.) We have a nice sized back yard. We probably should go through and make sure that there aren't any holes in the fences or access to under the house for a smallish dog to get through.

3.) I live close enough to where I work that it's not inconceivable that I can come home for lunch maybe two or three times a week, but planning in advance for that may be difficult. The family member that works nearby could also concievably come by to take care of any biological needs.

4.) The Displaced Dog stays in the house all day, between eight and ten hours. No compliants, no accidents, no destruction of furniture, no chewing, no shedding. I think he alternates between the couch in the TV room and his chair in the living room. Sometimes he naps on my bed. I suspect he sleeps for a good portion of the day, but he also chews bones, rearranges the rugs, and spends a lot of time on guard duty. When my mom's puppy comes over, I think that they play a very complicated game of chase. Both seem to be rather exhausted when they've spent the day together.

5.) The Displaced Dog generally doesn't like other dogs, but he adores my mom's puppy, and he spent a lot of time in worship of my mom's other dog. He lives in abject terror of my sister's lab. Both puppy and other dog were Pulik, so I think that the Displaced Dog wouldn't have a problem with another puppy of his own breed so long as he got to establish himself as being the one in charge. (It took him an hour to go from wanting to kill my mom's puppy to playing with it.) He thinks he's an alpha dog, but really he's a beta. I imagine that it wouldn't take very long for the new puppy to figure that out.

Just passing through
 

That's My Bush
 

http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/art...ideo29-ON.html

Alleged video of first daughter nude.

American Idol Review
 

Responding to bring the post current for ABBA, as well as make a few comments of my own.

I generally agree with all of your comments, except for the bottom two. If they do a bottom 3, I would agree with your assessment.

I looked at it from the standpoint of both performances on balance. I thought Trenyce's both were very, very good. Her best in a long while. I think because she was consistently good, if they have a bottom 2, it will be Josh and Kim. The Marines are going home, thankfully. Josh showed no range, and clearly looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore. He looks beaten, like Carmen did the week before.

Trenyce is stepping up her game. The battle between her and Kim should be especially interesting over the final show(s).

Clay and Ruben are clearly the class of the competition. Clay was very good. Ruben was rock-steady as usual.

About Ruben's first outfit. I couldn't tell at first whether that was leather or a heavier satiny type of material under the lights. Once I determined it was leather, I said to mrs. fish, "Gee, I wonder how many cows sacrificed themselves in the making of that outfit." Then at the end of the performance, Simon made a similar comment. Damn, that Ruben's a big dude.

spookyfish

And along the same lines:
My wife did not start watching this until a couple of weeks ago. She asked me of the significance of "205" last week, and my response was "I don't know, maybe that's what he weighed when he was 10 or something."