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sebastian_dangerfield 10-09-2019 01:43 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 525439)
I'm defending a case that maybe has $4M in provable damages, and the Plaintiff's Biglaw firm has billed $1.3M. The defendants are moving to dismiss the billionth amended complaint. The plaintiff is an LLC that is owned by a Fortune 500 company.

I mean, once you pass the $200k mark and you're still in the pleadings stage, you might want to re-evaluate your counsel.
That's extreme, of course. But there is a strategy to smoking out all the issues during pleadings.

But again, all of this can be done much more effectively in mediation.

But then, some group of nitwit associates can't fly out with a partner, to watch that partner argue a discovery motion, then FedEx their briefcases and 1.0 boxes of docs home from local counsel's office for $500.00.

Skadden was the worst. Why any client paid for those shmucks to litigate anything was beyond me.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-09-2019 01:45 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525452)
I wasn't kidding when I said the letter gave me a headache. It's impossible to follow. Reads like a fourth year associate's first draft of an appeal of a court's rejection of an equity or public policy argument.

Should have been signed with a giant smiley face.
If you were counsel to the House Democrats, I think you'd have some interesting questions about how to proceed. I would subpoena WhatsApp for the Sondland messages, and I would do it in a public way that would prompt Trump to go to court to try to quash the subpoena. That lets you isolate the question of whether the House's subpoena is facially valid, on facts where Administration were conducting public business on private accounts.

Anyway, seems like you don't want to take on all of the issues at once -- you want to look for a way to chip away at the craziness.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-09-2019 01:59 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 525454)
I just looked up Cippollone's Wikipedia page. Made $6.7 mil last year.

I should not jump off a bridge at lunch why? The universe is not irretrievably broken, and we are not living in a Monty Python script how?

That letter indicates a mind so cluttered, so incapable of holding even the slightest tether of continuity or capacity to maintain linear progression between thoughts, that were it to be offered to me as a judge in support of a motion, I would demand counsel redraft it in "English."

It's not a bad letter. No, that's not the term. It's the kind of letter that truly presses the question: "Should the 'R' word be acceptable where it's the only adjective that truly fits?"

Others here have disputed my argument that, in keeping with the theme of your Onion cite, any fucking idiot can make it in Washington DC. I worked with entertainment people in LA and NY long ago, and I always thought, "these people are really Not That Bright." I figured those folks were the basement, but increasingly, DC appears to be the dumbest city in the United States. Not because of Trump, though he certainly contributes, but because No One is Accountable. A man with a waterlogged Nerf football for a brain like Cippollone could only achieve such success in a town where no one ever has to make a payroll, no one ever has to worry about quarterlies, and govt money flows like the giant chocolate river in that fucking Willy Wonka movie.

Goddamnit, we're fucked.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-09-2019 02:08 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 525456)
If you were counsel to the House Democrats, I think you'd have some interesting questions about how to proceed. I would subpoena WhatsApp for the Sondland messages, and I would do it in a public way that would prompt Trump to go to court to try to quash the subpoena. That lets you isolate the question of whether the House's subpoena is facially valid, on facts where Administration were conducting public business on private accounts.

Anyway, seems like you don't want to take on all of the issues at once -- you want to look for a way to chip away at the craziness.
My chief objection was to style. I haven't even gotten to substance.

1. You don't write 8 page letters, to anyone, ever, unless you're in the 18th Century and you won't see your true love for three years and a fortnight.
2. You don't mix the legal with the equitable with the political and vomit it on the page like some regurgitated word salad. Write multiple letters. Save your powder. Offer things in discrete categories which people can digest.

Do these fucking people have any clue about crisis management? A fucking PR flack could do better.

Yes, I agree a subpoena that forces a public hearing, in a cherry-picked venue not favorable to Trump, is probably a best first step.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 10-09-2019 02:38 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525457)
I just looked up Cippollone's Wikipedia page. Made $6.7 mil last year.

I should not jump off a bridge at lunch why? The universe is not irretrievably broken, and we are not living in a Monty Python script how?

That letter indicates a mind so cluttered, so incapable of holding even the slightest tether of continuity or capacity to maintain linear progression between thoughts, that were it to be offered to me as a judge in support of a motion, I would demand counsel redraft it in "English."

It's not a bad letter. No, that's not the term. It's the kind of letter that truly presses the question: "Should the 'R' word be acceptable where it's the only adjective that truly fits?"

Others here have disputed my argument that, in keeping with the theme of your Onion cite, any fucking idiot can make it in Washington DC. I worked with entertainment people in LA and NY long ago, and I always thought, "these people are really Not That Bright." I figured those folks were the basement, but increasingly, DC appears to be the dumbest city in the United States. Not because of Trump, though he certainly contributes, but because No One is Accountable. A man with a waterlogged Nerf football for a brain like Cippollone could only achieve such success in a town where no one ever has to make a payroll, no one ever has to worry about quarterlies, and govt money flows like the giant chocolate river in that fucking Willy Wonka movie.

Goddamnit, we're fucked.
There is only one answer. We need to bring in immigrants to do all the jobs.

If we catch someone crossing the Southern Border illegally, they should immediately be given a job replacing one of Trump's political appointees. Their sentence, our salvation.

Adder 10-09-2019 03:10 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525457)
Others here have disputed my argument that, in keeping with the theme of your Onion cite, any fucking idiot can make it in Washington DC.
Who? A consistent theme you hear if you do any political organizing/working with volunteers on advocacy, actually having contact with people in power is demystifying. People assume elected officials and their staff are smart/knowledgeable and impressive, but often they are not.

Personally, I think this also applies to business executives. Definitely applies to lawyers, even some very highly compensated ones.

Replaced_Texan 10-09-2019 05:05 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525458)
My chief objection was to style. I haven't even gotten to substance.

1. You don't write 8 page letters, to anyone, ever, unless you're in the 18th Century and you won't see your true love for three years and a fortnight.
I love this sentence.

Icky Thump 10-09-2019 08:16 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 525439)
I'm defending a case that maybe has $4M in provable damages, and the Plaintiff's Biglaw firm has billed $1.3M. The defendants are moving to dismiss the billionth amended complaint. The plaintiff is an LLC that is owned by a Fortune 500 company.

I mean, once you pass the $200k mark and you're still in the pleadings stage, you might want to re-evaluate your counsel.
That's called "wealth transfer."

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2019 10:41 AM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 525460)
Who? A consistent theme you hear if you do any political organizing/working with volunteers on advocacy, actually having contact with people in power is demystifying. People assume elected officials and their staff are smart/knowledgeable and impressive, but often they are not.

Personally, I think this also applies to business executives. Definitely applies to lawyers, even some very highly compensated ones.
I agree. But I think it applies more in a locale like DC than in NY, Philly, Boston, even Baltimore.

DC is awash in cash and people who are full of shit. Nobody's doing serious deals in DC. The heavy lifting regarding financing and structuring is taking places where the adults work, in NY or Boston, or some similar city. In challenged cities like Philly or Baltimore, counsel has to provide value because the clients are nasty about paying.

In DC, however, it's jerkoffs going to lunch a lot and talking about policy and legislation. There aren't many measurable metrics, because even the best lobbyist or lawyer-playing-lobbyist can't control the politics. Nobody is really accountable for anything.

Talking to DC counsel and NY counsel is night and day. One guy's full of fluff and another has to get to the point because he has three more calls in the queue. In DC, people still wear suits all the time. There's still en emphasis on "the show." What professional wears a suit these days unless he has to be in court?

You are correct - the rot starts at the top. Any common jackass can run for office, and as voters are increasingly tribal, and of a "low information" character, being uninformed and saying and thinking dumb things is actually kind of an asset. So we've a collection of middle-intellects (being generous) in office, a number of whom are senile or close to it (which is a whole other issue) and a bunch of professionals servicing them. I don't know about you, but if I've a dolt for a client and I know my results can't be measured, I'm not going to provide the effort or quality of thought I would for a client who was aggressively measuring the success of my efforts. I'd get lazy, as I was when I worked in a large firm. If a person can cruise, they will.

And cruising is all anyone does in DC. If you can think, if you're fast with numbers, or have a penchant for innovation, the town is hell. The people driven to it are those who want to wear suits, twist arms at lunches, and practice "government lawyering" (dicking around with policy issues). There's nothing wrong with that, of course. But it's not said enough, and it needs to be said: Washington DC is an intellectually mediocre city of ineffective people, most of whom couldn't survive if they weren't swimming in a pool of cheap and easy govt money.

The town deserves no respect.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2019 10:47 AM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 525461)
I love this sentence.
My wife's been reading Austen's Lady Susan. I think that was the subconscious driver behind that sentence.

Adder 10-10-2019 11:59 AM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525463)
I agree. But I think it applies more in a locale like DC than in NY, Philly, Boston, even Baltimore.

DC is awash in cash and people who are full of shit. Nobody's doing serious deals in DC. The heavy lifting regarding financing and structuring is taking places where the adults work, in NY or Boston, or some similar city. In challenged cities like Philly or Baltimore, counsel has to provide value because the clients are nasty about paying.

In DC, however, it's jerkoffs going to lunch a lot and talking about policy and legislation. There aren't many measurable metrics, because even the best lobbyist or lawyer-playing-lobbyist can't control the politics. Nobody is really accountable for anything.

Talking to DC counsel and NY counsel is night and day. One guy's full of fluff and another has to get to the point because he has three more calls in the queue. In DC, people still wear suits all the time. There's still en emphasis on "the show." What professional wears a suit these days unless he has to be in court?
I mean, I've been away awhile, but let me just that I do not think you have a strong sense of the DC legal scene. Perhaps the lobbyist set fits your description, but otherwise, no.

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You are correct - the rot starts at the top. Any common jackass can run for office, and as voters are increasingly tribal, and of a "low information" character, being uninformed and saying and thinking dumb things is actually kind of an asset. So we've a collection of middle-intellects (being generous) in office, a number of whom are senile or close to it (which is a whole other issue) and a bunch of professionals servicing them.
Or, alternatively, the skills that makes you a good candidate for office who will get elected are different from the skills that makes one a good legislator or executive. Schmoozing and asking for money are real skills. (That I have very little of.)

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I don't know about you, but if I've a dolt for a client and I know my results can't be measured, I'm not going to provide the effort or quality of thought I would for a client who was aggressively measuring the success of my efforts.
I provide zealous representation for all of my clients, and I'm sure you do too.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-10-2019 01:34 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525463)
I agree. But I think it applies more in a locale like DC than in NY, Philly, Boston, even Baltimore.

DC is awash in cash and people who are full of shit. Nobody's doing serious deals in DC. The heavy lifting regarding financing and structuring is taking places where the adults work, in NY or Boston, or some similar city. In challenged cities like Philly or Baltimore, counsel has to provide value because the clients are nasty about paying.

In DC, however, it's jerkoffs going to lunch a lot and talking about policy and legislation. There aren't many measurable metrics, because even the best lobbyist or lawyer-playing-lobbyist can't control the politics. Nobody is really accountable for anything.

Talking to DC counsel and NY counsel is night and day. One guy's full of fluff and another has to get to the point because he has three more calls in the queue. In DC, people still wear suits all the time. There's still en emphasis on "the show." What professional wears a suit these days unless he has to be in court?

You are correct - the rot starts at the top. Any common jackass can run for office, and as voters are increasingly tribal, and of a "low information" character, being uninformed and saying and thinking dumb things is actually kind of an asset. So we've a collection of middle-intellects (being generous) in office, a number of whom are senile or close to it (which is a whole other issue) and a bunch of professionals servicing them. I don't know about you, but if I've a dolt for a client and I know my results can't be measured, I'm not going to provide the effort or quality of thought I would for a client who was aggressively measuring the success of my efforts. I'd get lazy, as I was when I worked in a large firm. If a person can cruise, they will.

And cruising is all anyone does in DC. If you can think, if you're fast with numbers, or have a penchant for innovation, the town is hell. The people driven to it are those who want to wear suits, twist arms at lunches, and practice "government lawyering" (dicking around with policy issues). There's nothing wrong with that, of course. But it's not said enough, and it needs to be said: Washington DC is an intellectually mediocre city of ineffective people, most of whom couldn't survive if they weren't swimming in a pool of cheap and easy govt money.

The town deserves no respect.
I think you need to try some different places the next time you are there.

Icky Thump 10-10-2019 01:54 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 525460)
Who? A consistent theme you hear if you do any political organizing/working with volunteers on advocacy, actually having contact with people in power is demystifying. People assume elected officials and their staff are smart/knowledgeable and impressive, but often they are not.

Personally, I think this also applies to business executives. Definitely applies to lawyers, even some very highly compensated ones.
Smart people hire people who have done it before. Want a wall put in? Hire a sheetrock guy who has put in a thousand partitions. Want to sue a cab? Hire a cab suer who has sued a thousand cab companies, not someone who HE went to HARVARD.

LessinSF 10-10-2019 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 525415)
The chance he missed was a chance to punch against Trump as the presumptive nominee, elevating himself above the other Dems. And it's not that it hurt him per se, it's that it's telling.
Who wants to bet the Ds screw up this opportunity to flood social media and the news with pictures of dead, mutilated Kurdish children?

LessinAlmaty, Kazakhstan

Adder 10-10-2019 03:03 PM
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Just went over to check out the line for the Klan.. er.. Trump rally here later today. Looks exactly how you picture it.

Pretty Little Flower 10-10-2019 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 525469)
Just went over to check out the line for the Klan.. er.. Trump rally here later today. Looks exactly how you picture it.
https://static-media.fxx.com/img/FX_...sons_10_06.jpg

Adder 10-10-2019 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 525470)
Kinda, but age them a few more decades. ETA: And obviously less diverse.

Replaced_Texan 10-10-2019 03:45 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 525468)
Who wants to bet the Ds screw up this opportunity to flood social media and the news with pictures of dead, mutilated Kurdish children?

LessinAlmaty, Kazakhstan
Twitter isn't holding back.

LessinSF 10-10-2019 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 525472)
Twitter isn't holding back.
I'm not on Twitter and many of the swing voters in swing states aren't either.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-10-2019 04:15 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 525473)
I'm not on Twitter and many of the swing voters in swing states aren't either.
How should Dems flood Facebook for swing voters in swing states? It would be really helpful if the Turks could bomb some photogenic puppies or kittens.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-10-2019 04:28 PM
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"The canine loyalty of Senate Republicans will keep Trump in office."

A nice turn of phrase from George Will.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2019 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 525467)
Smart people hire people who have done it before. Want a wall put in? Hire a sheetrock guy who has put in a thousand partitions. Want to sue a cab? Hire a cab suer who has sued a thousand cab companies, not someone who HE went to HARVARD.
Yeah, but as Adder notes, execs aren’t geniuses. If you’re a GC, a stooge with a big degree is a better spacegoat than one with experience. Branding is less and less important as value becomes more significant (and info on the Internet has educated savvy consumers as to how easy it is to practice law), but it’s still real. The patsy with brand credentials is always the safest route for job protection.

People are so fucking dumb they assume one is smart based on one’s college. Someone here just cited a stat that, among selective schools, 43% of students are legacies or athletes.

Trump has exposed a horrifying fact. Most people are a lot stupider than you think. You can get away with way more than you know. Dumb it down, then dumb it down a few more times. Then when you think they must be onto you, dumb it down once more.

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2019 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 525467)
Smart people hire people who have done it before. Want a wall put in? Hire a sheetrock guy who has put in a thousand partitions. Want to sue a cab? Hire a cab suer who has sued a thousand cab companies, not someone who HE went to HARVARD.
I guess this is aimed at me as no one else here possibly went to THE U. I'll just say this, if you want to criticize those of us at the top, I'd suggest double checking for typos next time.

Pretty Little Flower 10-10-2019 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 525477)
I guess this is aimed at me as no one else here possible went to THE U. I'll just say this, if you want to criticize those of us at the top, I'd suggest double checking for typos next time.
Translation: I've never sued a cab company. :(

Pretty Little Flower 10-10-2019 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525476)
If you’re a GC, a stooge with a big degree is a better spacegoat than one with experience.
Disagree. I would hire these guys over some effete Ivy League fuck like Hank any day of the week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyOzsDnvVk

sebastian_dangerfield 10-10-2019 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 525468)
Who wants to bet the Ds screw up this opportunity to flood social media and the news with pictures of dead, mutilated Kurdish children?

LessinAlmaty, Kazakhstan
Most Americans think Trump just put a tariff on some form of foreign cheese.

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2019 12:51 AM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 525479)
Disagree. I would hire these guys over some effete Ivy League fuck like Hank any day of the week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyOzsDnvVk
That’s alright
That’s okay
You gonna work for me someday

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2019 11:59 AM
This was before other members of the legal team were arrested fleeing the country
 
Ladies and gentlemen, all the President's lawyers:

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On Wednesday morning, the day after news leaked that Gowdy was set to serve as outside counsel to the president, Victoria Toensing, a veteran Washington lawyer who has been working with Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, expressed concern and disbelief that the onetime advocate for congressional oversight would be coming onboard.

“Trey Gowdy doesn’t know s***,” she said.

Toensing argued that Gowdy mishandled the select committee that investigated Democrat Hillary Clinton’s handling of the 2012 terrorist attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya. She also took issue with comments Gowdy made last year in which he urged Trump to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into the Trump campaign’s role in Russian attempts to intervene in the 2016 presidential race.

“He screwed up the Benghazi hearings, and he came out with the advice to Trump, ‘Well, if you’ve done nothing wrong, just talk to Bob Mueller.’” ...

“He’s not on the team. Trey Gowdy is not on the team. Who told you Trey Gowdy? Not to my knowledge, not to Rudy’s knowledge, not Joe’s knowledge,” said Toensing, who had not heard of the move at the time of her interview with Yahoo News on Wednesday morning. “I have to check that with Rudy because that would be a joke, because we all don’t think much of him,” she said of Gowdy, adding, “Are you kidding? ... Trey is a joke among us.”

However, by Wednesday evening, Sekulow officially announced Gowdy’s appointment.

“I am pleased to announce that former Congressman Trey Gowdy is joining our team as counsel to the president,” Sekulow said. “I have known Trey for years and worked with him when he served in Congress. His legal skills and his advocacy will serve the president well. Trey’s command of the law is well known and his service on Capitol Hill will be a great asset as a member of our team.”

Neither Gowdy nor Sekulow responded to a request for comment about Toensing’s misgivings.
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/trey-...180836829.html

Did you just call me Coltrane? 10-11-2019 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525480)
Most Americans think Trump just put a tariff on some form of foreign cheese.
Not people from Wisconsin. Fried cheeeeeeeeeese curds. Now I'm hungry.

Icky Thump 10-11-2019 01:58 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525476)
Yeah, but as Adder notes, execs aren’t geniuses. If you’re a GC, a stooge with a big degree is a better spacegoat than one with experience. Branding is less and less important as value becomes more significant (and info on the Internet has educated savvy consumers as to how easy it is to practice law), but it’s still real. The patsy with brand credentials is always the safest route for job protection.

People are so fucking dumb they assume one is smart based on one’s college. Someone here just cited a stat that, among selective schools, 43% of students are legacies or athletes.

Trump has exposed a horrifying fact. Most people are a lot stupider than you think. You can get away with way more than you know. Dumb it down, then dumb it down a few more times. Then when you think they must be onto you, dumb it down once more.
Fact. Someone here went to a top undergrad but retard law school. At work is full retard. Like can’t do anything retard. I wondered how the fuck em got into top 6 undergrad when once, I heard em slip “When my mom worked at The U, she got family free tuit....PHONE IS RINGING!!!”

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2019 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 521711)
Is Barr a hack? Of course. Is he misrepresenting the findings of Mueller, a man he’s known and worked with for 30 years? Are you mad? Do you think these people dont realize they’ll all be subpoenaed before Congress?
This held up well.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-11-2019 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 525484)
Fact. Someone here went to a top undergrad but retard law school. At work is full retard. Like can’t do anything retard. I wondered how the fuck em got into top 6 undergrad when once, I heard em slip “When my mom worked at The U, she got family free tuit....PHONE IS RINGING!!!”
If you went to a top 6 university and then went to law school, something's amiss. You're kind of wasting the undergrad degree and the connections it confers to take on unjustifiable lost opportunity costs and annoyance.

Or as you note, Mom worked in admissions.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-11-2019 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 525485)
This held up well.
I don't think anyone expected that Trump's first act upon escaping Mueller's clutches would be to put himself right back into the crosshairs of another investigation.

But then again, it's not entirely an unexpected thing for him to do...

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2019 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525487)
I don't think anyone expected that Trump's first act upon escaping Mueller's clutches would be to put himself right back into the crosshairs of another investigation.

But then again, it's not entirely an unexpected thing for him to do...
Uh, hello? Trump betrayed the Kurds this week just to show that he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

And if he took a lesson from L'Affaire Mueller, surely it was that with an Attorney General who won't recuse, he has no need to fear federal law enforcement investigations.

Adder 10-11-2019 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 525488)
Uh, hello? Trump betrayed the Kurds this week just to show that he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

And if he took a lesson from L'Affaire Mueller, surely it was that with an Attorney General who won't recuse, he has no need to fear federal law enforcement investigations.
Let’s be clear, though, 45 betrayed the Kurds because Erdogan and Putin wanted him too. Is it out of his bizarre affinity for strongman or is there more going (some of which we don’t know about in part because Manafort chose to go to jail instead of cooperate)?

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2019 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 525489)
Let’s be clear, though, 45 betrayed the Kurds because Erdogan and Putin wanted him too. Is it out of his bizarre affinity for strongman or is there more going (some of which we don’t know about in part because Manafort chose to go to jail instead of cooperate)?
Or because he got tired of national security professionals telling him it was a bad idea, at the same time that national security professionals are screwing him by creating Ukrainian problems for him, and so he acted out.

As with trying to explain the results of the 2016 election, it's overdetermined.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2019 05:22 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Can't be sure that there's any connection between Barr's visit with Murdoch, and Shep Smith's departure from Fox News, but the lack of transparency certainly leaves a bad look for the Fox.

Also, what Rick Wilson says.

Pretty Little Flower 10-11-2019 06:25 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 525487)
I don't think anyone expected that Trump's first act upon escaping Mueller's clutches would be to put himself right back into the crosshairs of another investigation.

But then again, it's not entirely an unexpected thing for him to do...
If nobody expected it, how was it not unexpected? The weak passive voice of your second sentence does not save it from irreconcilability with the first. This is just another example of poor writing completely failing to distract from unpersuasive excuses that are being made in order to justify yet another bloviation proven false.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-11-2019 06:34 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Speaking of the law, in what sense is Giuliani acting as Trump's attorney? Does he ever give Trump legal advice, or is he a fixer with a legally cognizable excuse to keep secrets?

Hank Chinaski 10-11-2019 06:55 PM
Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 525493)
Speaking of the law, in what sense is Giuliani acting as Trump's attorney? Does he ever give Trump legal advice, or is he a fixer with a legally cognizable excuse to keep secrets?
Ever hear of Tom Hagen?


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