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SlaveNoMore 04-30-2003 04:14 PM

bleh
 
Quote:

evenodds
I just saw this new shot of [Xtina], and I think she's just a fattie:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...2684526682.jpg
NO FUCKING WAY.

Is that really her? Is that recent or when she was 13?

Jesus, she looks like some pop star reject from Polish TV.

not7y(hurl)S

robustpuppy 04-30-2003 04:15 PM

Bass ackwards
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soup sandwich
While in the real world, I think people should not be paid based on gender, here is one area where there should be a difference. The men play best of five, the women play best of three. The men play more tennis so their higher pay is justified. I'm surprised that the Australian and US Open's give the same prize money for less work.
What if Hewitt defeats Sampras in straight sets, and Venus and Serena play a five, I mean three set nail-biter?

You might say, yeah, but overall, the men play more tennis.

But what if that happens in a year where the men's finals winner defeated everybody in straight sets, and the women's finals winner played five, er, three sets with a tiebreak for every match in the tournament?

Should the prize money be adjusted then?

The tennis players are paid for winning, whether they won easily or not.

Furthermore, your argument is based on the premise that compensation for athletes is based on the difficulty or volume of their work, rather than the market value of their services or the results they achieve. I'm sure somebody who followed other sports could come up with a load of examples, within the same sport and among players of the same gender, that disprove this notion. All I can think of right now is Cal Ripken vs. Reggie Jackson.

greatwhitenorthchick 04-30-2003 04:20 PM

Bass ackwards
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soup sandwich
While in the real world, I think people should not be paid based on gender, here is one area where there should be a difference. The men play best of five, the women play best of three. The men play more tennis so their higher pay is justified. I'm surprised that the Australian and US Open's give the same prize money for less work.
People don't get paid based on how hard they work. I work a lot harder than Gisele Bundchen, but she makes a lot more than I do. They get paid for what they can sell their work for. Since the women tennis players sell more advertising (don't they) and attract more viewers, they should get more.

I agree with your sentiment, and I think people like Lisa Leslie and all those women who work just as hard as male NBA players and other male athletes would like to live in your world where people get compensated for how hard they work. But fair's fair. If male NBA players make more because they sell a better product, shouldn't female tennis players?

leagleaze 04-30-2003 04:21 PM

speaking of puppies
 
How cute is this?

http://www.comcast.net/providers/pho...nyoneSMALL.jpg

evenodds 04-30-2003 04:28 PM

bleh
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
NO FUCKING WAY.

Is that really her? Is that recent or when she was 13?

Jesus, she looks like some pop star reject from Polish TV.

not7y(hurl)S
She looks awful. It's her from the GLAAD awards performance last weekend. She could look better in a better outfit, but clearly she either fired her stylist, or pissed em off and should apologize immediately.

purse junkie 04-30-2003 04:30 PM

bleh
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
I just saw this new shot of her, and I think she's just a fattie:

Even(gotta love yahoo's most-emailed content email)Odds
More disturbing than the likelihood she's simply been hitting the Cheetos is that she seems to have utterly lost her eyebrows.

She makes up her face like a colorblind clown, but she doesn't think to use a simple eyebrow pencil? WTF?

p(darken your hair, darken your brows--or at least forbid your brow person from plucking them off completely)j

SlaveNoMore 04-30-2003 04:30 PM

My Left Foot
 
Quote:

leagleaze
How cute is this?

http://www.comcast.net/providers/pho...nyoneSMALL.jpg
So I can score with my left foot and still kick the dog with my right. Nice.

not7yS

robustpuppy 04-30-2003 04:30 PM

bleh
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
She looks awful. It's her from the GLAAD awards performance last weekend. She could look better in a better outfit, but clearly she either fired her stylist, or pissed em off and should apologize immediately.
Or she said "make me look like Cyndi Lauper, but not as cute."

soup sandwich 04-30-2003 04:30 PM

Bass ackwards
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
What if Hewitt defeats Sampras in straight sets, and Venus and Serena play a five set nail-biter?

You might say, yeah, but overall, the men play more tennis.

But what if that happens in a year where the men's finals winner defeated everybody in straight sets, and the women's finals winner played five sets with a tiebreak for every match in the tournament?

Should the prize money be adjusted then?

The tennis players are paid for winning, whether they won easily or not.

Furthermore, your argument is based on the premise that compensation for athletes is based on the difficulty or volume of their work, rather than the market value of their services or the results they achieve. I'm sure somebody who followed other sports could come up with a load of examples, within the same sport and among players of the same gender, that disprove this notion. All I can think of right now is Cal Ripken vs. Reggie Jackson.
Well, first, Serena and Venus will not play five sets (excluding some godawful endless 3rd set tiebreaker scenario) because they play best of three, not best of five.

I think we can agree that in terms of games played, on average, men play more. This should also translate into longer matches in terms of time, which means more commercials, which leads to more revenue generated.

If, and it's a big if, commercial time for men's and women's matches is the same, it means the men are bringing in more money, regardless of the number of tickets sold.

Sure, we all can come up with specific examples where the women's matches would be longer, but to my knowledge there has never been a tournament where the women were on the court longer then the men.

The bottom line is that bringing in the most money (probably through TV), should determine of who gets paid what prize money.

I have nothing to go on here except that men are actually on the court longer. If it turns out that women are bringing in the same anount of money as the men, but being paid less, I will join you in being PO'd.

spookyfish 04-30-2003 04:41 PM

Congratulations Slave!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
So I can score with my left foot and still kick the dog with my right. Nice.

not7yS
You've just been upgraded to the ninth circle of hell.

spooky(Satan's errand boy)fish

Atticus Grinch 04-30-2003 04:42 PM

Dante Test
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Salt in the womb.
Naughty Altar Guild jokes aside, "pillar of salt" was a Hebrew euphemism for a barren woman. Lot's wife was punished for her disobedience by being made sterile. The reason the story makes it sound literal is that she's never mentioned again, and so to the modern ear, she sounds horribly dead. But she's not mentioned again only because she could no longer do anything Biblically relevant (i.e., bear great heroic children).*

Not everybody would consider this a punishment, mind you. I think Bilmore would have gladly gazed upon Sodom. And I'm sure Slave does so daily.

A(Will the real Cliff Claven please stand up?)G

P.S. I vaguely remember posting this story on the Stalin Board, but it's my favorite illustration of why fundamentalist wingnuts are always completely wrong about the Hebrew Bible, so I'll post it again and again.

soup sandwich 04-30-2003 04:43 PM

Bass ackwards
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
If male NBA players make more because they sell a better product, shouldn't female tennis players?
Absolutely. But while we all have a suspicion that women bring in as much dough as the men, none of us are sure of it. On the other hand, I am very sure that the men are on the court longer.

robustpuppy 04-30-2003 04:44 PM

Bass ackwards
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soup sandwich
Well, first, Serena and Venus will not play five sets (excluding some godawful endless 3rd set tiebreaker scenario) because they play best of three, not best of five.

Wires crossed in the brain, I meant three. Both times. Really. But thanks for giving me a chance to edit my post before you quoted it so that the error could haunt me forever.

r(tail wagging left today)p

ThurgreedMarshall 04-30-2003 04:55 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
How cute is this?

http://www.comcast.net/providers/pho...nyoneSMALL.jpg
I've finally "met" the person who buys those posters of the little kitty cat hanging from a thread with the caption, "Hang in there." When it gets so cute that everyone around you wants to tuaot, you should think to yourself, "Should I really share this?"

TM

Replaced_Texan 04-30-2003 05:04 PM

Pussy revisited
 
FWIW, a friend of mine just told me that she's pretty evenly spread out all over hell, except for the first two pussy levels.

robustpuppy 04-30-2003 05:07 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I've finally "met" the person who buys those posters of the little kitty cat hanging from a thread with the caption, "Hang in there." When it gets so cute that everyone around you wants to tuaot, you should think to yourself, "Should I really share this?"

TM
Notes to self:

Thurgreed does NOT like pictures of puppies. Delete email from outbox.

Slave kicks puppies. Stay out of his kitchen.

ABBAKiss 04-30-2003 05:07 PM

Pussy revisited
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
FWIW, a friend of mine just told me that she's pretty evenly spread out all over hell, except for the first two pussy levels.
Taken out of context, this is pretty funny. Also a horrible visual.

ltl/fb 04-30-2003 05:09 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall everyone around you wants to tuaot
Are you calling her a twat?

What the hell is tuaot?

And, now that twat has come up, is this worse or better than cunt? I don't think it came up. I have to say, once a client (female) used the phrase "pain in my twat" on the phone and the partner in the room was horrified.

robustpuppy 04-30-2003 05:15 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Are you calling her a twat?

What the hell is tuaot?
I think he means throw up all over themselves. But I had the same reaction.

Tyrone Slothrop 04-30-2003 05:18 PM

Pussy revisited
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
FWIW, a friend of mine just told me that she's pretty evenly spread out all over hell, except for the first two pussy levels.
Those of you who are going to spend all of eternity down below me (which includes, by my count, everyone but Deuced) are just jealous.

ThurgreedMarshall 04-30-2003 05:19 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
What the hell is tuaot?
It's an off shoot of TUAOM.

TUAOM is my own creation. I decided I needed an acronym if you people were going to insist on using LOL and NTTAWWT, etc.

It stands for Throw up all over myself.

T(uao)M

Bad_Rich_Chic 04-30-2003 05:20 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
And, now that twat has come up, is this worse or better than cunt? I don't think it came up. I have to say, once a client (female) used the phrase "pain in my twat" on the phone and the partner in the room was horrified.
I think it's better. Why, I don't know. Maybe just because it is slightly more obscure. Maybe also because I have an audio of an English friend of mine opining that someone or other is a "complete twat," meaning basically the same thing as "prat." But I also have an audio of this friend calling guys on his football team a bunch of "cunts," so that doesn't mean anything.

ltl/fb 04-30-2003 05:21 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I think he means throw up all over themselves. But I had the same reaction.
Ah. Part of my confusion may stem from the fact that if I'm going to throw up on someone, it's not going to be me -- I find someone deserving and throw up on them.

ABBAKiss 04-30-2003 05:22 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I think it's better. Why, I don't know. Maybe just because it is slightly more obscure. Maybe also because I have an audio of an English friend of mine opining that someone or other is a "complete twat," meaning basically the same thing as "prat." But I also have an audio of this friend calling guys on his football team a bunch of "cunts," so that doesn't mean anything.
When I think of the word "twat" I think of the time some really drunken friends were debating whether it was "more proper" to call a certain area the "t'aint" or the "t'isn't"

dtb 04-30-2003 05:23 PM

A Little Levity
 
Brought to you by one of my colleagues:



On a Septic Tank Truck sign:
> "We're #1 in the #2 business."
> **************************
>
> Sign over a Gynecologist's Office:
> "Dr. Jones, at your cervix."
> **************************
>
> At a Proctologist's door
> "To expedite your visit please back in."
> **************************
>
> On a Plumber's truck:
> "We repair what your husband fixed."
> **************************
>
> On a Plumber's truck:
> "Don't sleep with a drip. Call your plumber."
> **************************
>
> Pizza Shop Slogan:
> "7 days without pizza makes one weak."
> **************************
>
> At a Tire Shop in Milwaukee:
> "Invite us to your next blowout."
> **************************
>
> On a Plastic Surgeon's Office door:
> "Hello. Can we p ick your nose?"
> **************************
>
> At a Towing company:
> "We don't charge an arm and a leg. We want tows."
> **************************
>
> On an Electrician's truck:
> "Let us remove your shorts."
> **************************
>
> In a Nonsmoking Area:
> "If we see smoke, we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate
> action."
> **************************
>
> On a Maternity Room door:
> "Push. Push. Push."
> **************************
>
> At an Optometrist's Office
> "If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the right
place."
> **************************
>
> On a Taxidermist's window:
> "We really know our stuff."
> **************************
>
> In a Podiatrist's office:
> "Time wounds all heels."
> ************************ **
>
> On a Fence:
> "Salesmen welcome! Dog food is expensive."
> **************************
>
> At a Car Dealership:
> "The best way to get back on your feet - miss a car payment."
> **************************
>
> Outside a Muffler Shop:
> "No appointment necessary. We hear you coming."
> **************************
>
> In a Veterinarian's waiting room:
> "Be back in 5 minutes. Sit! Stay!"
> **************************
>
> At the Electric Company:
> "We would be delighted if you send in your payment.
> However, if you don't, you will be."
> **************************
>
> In a Restaurant window:
> "Don't stand there and be hungry, Come on in and get fed up."
> **************************
>
> In the front yard of a Funeral Home:
> "Drive carefully. We'll wait."
>
> **************************
> At a Propane Filling Station,
> "Tank heaven for little grills."
> **************************
> < BR> And don't forget the sign at a Chicago Radiator Shop:
> "Best place in town to take a leak."

Bad_Rich_Chic 04-30-2003 05:23 PM

Pussy revisited
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
FWIW, a friend of mine just told me that she's pretty evenly spread out all over hell, except for the first two pussy levels.
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Taken out of context, this is pretty funny. Also a horrible visual.
Yeah, I though she was talking about those Christina Aguilera pics for a minute.

Cliff Clavin 04-30-2003 05:24 PM

Dante Touch That Dial
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
blah blah blah
A(Will the real Cliff Claven please stand up?)G.
I AM

Who came through in his mail truck to terrorize your momma (huh?)
Told you how to slap stamps and mail your girl (I did!)
Gave you all the finger and told you I walked through hail
Walked a million miles and still screamed, "Fuck the mail!"

I'm Cliff Clavin
The real Cliff Clavin
The only Cliff Clavin
The one Cliff Clavin
And that's okay
And I'm okay
My Mom's okay
But you'll have to pay

Atticus' a girl
A churlish whirl
He makes me sick and want to hurl
Fuck You Grinch
You Christmas stealin'
Penny pinchin' wheelin' dope dealin'
wench I kick your ass
Across chirst mass
And fill it up with gas
little punk'd lass

So come and get me while my name's hot
AG bores me with twenty-five lines on the hisory of snot
Sincere answers to stupid Qs, you answer all,
Like an older Adder you talk so much you make my brain rot
I need a pain shot, and a shot of plain scotch
I'd borry Slave's but he needs it to get crotch
Pansy boy
With his feather toys, little boys, and thai latte with PP's bok choy

I'm Cliff Clavin
The real Cliff Clavin
The only Cliff Clavin
The one Cliff Clavin
And that's okay
And I'm okay
My Mom's okay
But you'll have to pay

Now I'm on my route, my truck don't stop
I'll throw the mail, hell, stick it in your slot
Steal the mail, take all bubbles out and pop
Under the shirt, shaved armpits and mesh tank top
Bad Boy, I told you that I can't stop
I take your Vicki's Secret and do a Number Three
Reseal that puppy and bring it home with me

I'm Cliff Clavin
The real Cliff Clavin
The only Cliff Clavin
The one Cliff Clavin
And that's okay
And I'm okay
My Mom's okay
But you'll have to pay

leagleaze 04-30-2003 05:26 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I've finally "met" the person who buys those posters of the little kitty cat hanging from a thread with the caption, "Hang in there." When it gets so cute that everyone around you wants to tuaot, you should think to yourself, "Should I really share this?"

TM
Nope, never buy them, but thanks for the sentiment. I like your tuaot thing though.

ltl/fb 04-30-2003 05:27 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I think it's better. Why, I don't know. Maybe just because it is slightly more obscure. Maybe also because I have an audio of an English friend of mine opining that someone or other is a "complete twat," meaning basically the same thing as "prat." But I also have an audio of this friend calling guys on his football team a bunch of "cunts," so that doesn't mean anything.
It's odd how Americans seem to think anything said with an English (possibly British) accent is amusing, whereas if people misuse words with American accents it's just stupid.

tmdiva 04-30-2003 05:38 PM

Misc/AI
 
Shouldn't that be ClavEn?

I'll be joining c2ed in purgatory (surprise, surprise).

Christina Aguilera wouldn't look so bad if her shoulders were a little broader and if she wore clothes that fit properly. Bleh.

AI--there wasn't much more to say that I haven't already said. I was definitely glad not to have to hear Carmen, Kim C., Charles, or Julia, and I still miss Rickey (didn't hear enough Vanessa to say whether I would still want to be hearing her).

Ruben: some questionable style choices (shaved head, strangely shiny "leather" outfit), but sounds better than ever. I totally dug his slowed-down version of Breakin' Up Is Hard to Do.

Trenyce: I didn't like the bangs. The slow section of Proud Mary completely lacked energy (cf. Ruben on BUIHtD). She had moments of better vocal technique on Love Will Keep Us Together, but still moments where she completely lost it and was pitchy as a result.

Josh: Very workmanlike performances, with absolutely zero joy in them. He doesn't seem to be enjoying himself at all. My sil captured it when she said, "If he came on the radio, I would change the station."

Kim: I don't know why the judges didn't like her on Heard It Through the Grapevine, but then did on Where the Boys Are. I thought she was fabulous on both, and looked great too (though her boobs were in danger of jumping out of her neckline on her way onstage at the beginning).

Clay: He really has been improving the facial tics, and even some on the vocal tics. He really does have a nice voice, smooth throughout his range, and he obviously loves performing. And in Solitaire, he actually gave a song a different emotional reading! Way to go. Incredibly nelly at some non-singing moments (I particularly noticed when he was going over to sit by Ryan after his first song)--is he gay or just fey?

Josh should go home.

tm

leagleaze 04-30-2003 05:41 PM

Spammers in jail?
 
There is an interesting poll on CNN, it asks whether spammers should face time in jail. It is based on this article. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/interne....ap/index.html

The article talks about a new Virginia law which threatens spammers with jail. The Governor signed the law at AOL head quarters.

I guess this could be a political thing, but we are always talking about some of the crazy spam we get here so I thought it might be appropriate to mention it here.

I hate spam, but jail time? Somehow that seems a bit severe. If they can't even manage to get them fined, how do they plan to meet the level of proof needed to put someone in jail?


Edited to add, the majority of people have answered yes, they think spammers should be put in jail, to the poll. I guess people must be very fed up.

notcasesensitive 04-30-2003 05:46 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Are you calling her a twat?

What the hell is tuaot?

And, now that twat has come up, is this worse or better than cunt? I don't think it came up. I have to say, once a client (female) used the phrase "pain in my twat" on the phone and the partner in the room was horrified.
I have a confession. I had no idea what a twat was when I was in college (apparently not a highly used phrase in my high school), so one day my bf and I were in the library and someone had written "[insert name here] is a twat" on the table. When I asked my bf what a twat was he just about busted a gut. Now I know. Heck I even have one.

n(I've made it to the second level of hell since that time)cs

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 04-30-2003 05:48 PM

Spammers in Jail???
 
I would have voted for "Boiled in oil with their telemarketing scum brethren" but that wasn't a choice...:bang:

leagleaze 04-30-2003 05:49 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I have a confession. I had no idea what a twat was when I was in college ...
I had a similar experience, except it was with the word pud and I was in highschool. A friend of mind said someone was a pud, and I said, in front of a teacher (we were walking down the stairs at the time I think) what is a pud? She didn't believe I didn't know, but I had never heard the expression before. She also turned bright red. Hey, if you can't explain the term without getting all embarrassed why the hell are you using it?

fitshaced 04-30-2003 05:51 PM

Spammers in Jail???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
I would have voted for "Boiled in oil with their telemarketing scum brethren" but that wasn't a choice...:bang:
Where do I get these choice smilie face thingies?

robustpuppy 04-30-2003 05:52 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
I had a similar experience, except it was with the word pud and I was in highschool. A friend of mind said someone was a pud, and I said, in front of a teacher (we were walking down the stairs at the time I think) what is a pud? She didn't believe I didn't know, but I had never heard the expression before. She also turned bright red. Hey, if you can't explain the term without getting all embarrassed why the hell are you using it?
I have a confession -- I don't know what pud means today. But if I had to guess, I'd say it's short for pudendum.

r(also did not know what "cracker" meant until law school)p

leagleaze 04-30-2003 05:52 PM

Spammers in Jail???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by fitshaced
Where do I get these choice smilie face thingies?
Look to the left of the reply box. You will see a small box that reads "Smilies" if you look to the bottom you will see a link "Get more" click on that and maximize the window. You just double click on the smiley to insert it into the post.

leagleaze 04-30-2003 05:53 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I have a confession -- I don't know what pud means today. But if I had to guess, I'd say it's short for pudendum.

r(also did not know what "cracker" meant until law school)p
You are making me feel better. And pud means penis, as in pulling your pud.

fitshaced 04-30-2003 05:55 PM

Spammers in Jail???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Look to the left of the reply box. You will see a small box that reads "Smilies" if you look to the bottom you will see a link "Get more" click on that and maximize the window. You just double click on the smiley to insert it into the post.
thanx

notcasesensitive 04-30-2003 05:56 PM

speaking of puppies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
You are making me feel better. And pud means penis, as in pulling your pud.
RP, I didn't know either. Surprisingly (not) dictionary.com didn't have that definition of pud.

n(I have heard people say "he's such a pud" but I just thought it was a nonsense word)cs


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