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The Search for Animal Chin 03-28-2003 01:27 PM

Things to do in Portland when you're dead.
 
I hope this board manages to stay put for a while. It really hasn't had a chance to gather any momentum. Assuming someone eventually arrives to talk about the PNW, I'm wondering if there's any inside information on the demise of the Hagen Dye firm. Why did DiLorenzo leave? Have the remaining lawyers split into several factions, or just two? How about Ater Wynne? I hear associates are looking to leave that firm as quickly as possible. Let's hear some dirt.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 03-28-2003 02:33 PM

Re: Things to do in Portland when you're dead.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Search for Animal Chin
I hope this board manages to stay put for a while. It really hasn't had a chance to gather any momentum. Assuming someone eventually arrives to talk about the PNW, I'm wondering if there's any inside information on the demise of the Hagen Dye firm. Why did DiLorenzo leave? Have the remaining lawyers split into several factions, or just two? How about Ater Wynne? I hear associates are looking to leave that firm as quickly as possible. Let's hear some dirt.
I heard that DiLorenzo had been looking to go to DWT for some time, and actually tried for a merger. Don't know which side nixed that idea. Don't know exactly how the remaining Hagen folks split, though I'm told there were divisions between the senior folks and the younger partners.

runaway 03-30-2003 07:45 PM

i agree - this place was a fairly sizable presence on the pdx & trx scene. asi remember, they only had like 8 associates, but id like to get some dirst also.

tjhis is runanway from the other board

hey animal chin you have the same interests as I

The Search for Animal Chin 04-01-2003 08:09 PM

We're all dead and doing nothing
 
So far things are looking pretty bleak for the future of the PNW forum on this site. PNW associates are pussies. For about 6 weeks back in mid 2000 there was a lot of traffic on the old greedy board, and then people got whiny and disappeared. McBVR and Penske kept things interesting. There's a lot of crazy shit that goes down in Portland and Seattle, and it's worth talking about. Maybe GAs are too worried about getting canned. But, if GAs are getting canned, keeping quiet about it doesn't help anyone.

Is the Preston Gates and Luce Forward merger going to happen? I've been wondering about that one. Preston and Luce fill similar positions in the Seattle and San Diego markets. I don't think the offspring of these two dinosaurs will be strong enough to survive the ice age that seems to have arrived.


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Penske_Account 04-07-2003 10:50 PM

We're all dead and doing nothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Search for Animal Chin
So far things are looking pretty bleak for the future of the PNW forum on this site. PNW associates are pussies. For about 6 weeks back in mid 2000 there was a lot of traffic on the old greedy board, and then people got whiny and disappeared. McBVR and Penske kept things interesting. There's a lot of crazy shit that goes down in Portland and Seattle, and it's worth talking about. Maybe GAs are too worried about getting canned. But, if GAs are getting canned, keeping quiet about it doesn't help anyone.
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Yes, the good old days. Back before I got my big raise of 2000. Who knew it would pale in comparison with the greedy gain I would make in the midst of the recession this year. Ah the mammaries.....memories.

But then again, you are right, by and large, these PacNW asses are pussies. Scared to post, scared of the big bad money!! I got mine and if you had any sense of greed all ya'all would too!

Bring down the greedy partners hierarchy. Flip the tenth tier bastards at Lane Powell the bird!!! LOL!

Anyway, maybe someone should bring back MCBvr6 to liven things up. A rematch if you will. mano a mano. tete a tete. tit a tit!!!

Bring it on baby!!!!

Penske

ps: Seems like the layoffs continue. I have been interviewing young comely lasses for associates positions of late and the list of firms laying off just keeps growing.

The question becomes, who hasn't gotten laid? Off?

mcbvr6.1 04-10-2003 07:20 PM

Ask and ye shall receive
 
Come and get some. :D

Try not to get too scared right away and run for help. That takes away all the fun.

Penske Account 04-10-2003 07:23 PM

Mcbvr6.1 - Go back to the Greedy Associates Board!
 
I was afraid that you and your lackey, Socialist Agenda, would find this board. Do us all a favor and go back to Greedy Associates/Infirmation. They appreciate your form of lowbrow humor and vulgarity there.

Remember, I know who you are!

Edited to note that this isn't really Penske. I'm not deleting (yet) because I find the whole thing amusing and because there is nothing more interesting going on around here. But flat-out impersonations have always been a deleting offense, so kindly stop using the fake Penske log-in.

Just log in as Pusske or Socialist Agenda instead.

tHank you.

mcbvr6.1 04-10-2003 07:25 PM

I know who you are too bitch.
 
Don't get me started on your candy-ass.

You couldn't handle me before and you certainly can't handle the new version.

pusske account 04-10-2003 07:26 PM

Socialist Agenda? Don't forget this lackey, you sick bastard.
 
I can't believe you'd disrespect me by leaving me out of the loop. I'm the biggest lackey there is, you sycophant.

This should be fun.

Penske_Account 04-14-2003 01:48 PM

McBeaver and pusske
 
I fart in the general direction of the two of you chumps.

Bugger off!

the real Penske!

mcbvr6.1 04-15-2003 06:15 PM

Oh my god, that's really the best you've got?

You quote from Monty Python - that's like pounding the final nail in your nerd coffin.

With tough talk like that it's no wonder the other kids at camp made you suck their dicks when the lights were shut off at night.

Penske_Account 04-15-2003 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcbvr6.1
Oh my god..........With tough talk like that
Gee. now I feel badly, its looks like my tough talk frightened you. This situation reminds me of the lyrics from the Cure song, "Boys Don't Cry":

I would tell you
That I loved you
If I thought that you would stay
But I know that it's no use
That you've already
Gone away
Misjudged your limits
Pushed you too far
Took you for granted
I thought that you needed me more
Now I would do most anything
To get you back by my side
But I just
Keep on laughing
Hiding the tears in my eyes
Cause boys don't cry
Boys don't cry
Boys don't cry



Boys don't cry indeed, do they McBeever??? NTTAWWT! :violin:

Penske_Account 04-26-2003 06:40 PM

doa
 
Wow, I guess we chalk this place up as another board I have killed.

How to make enemas and alienate people, indeed!

Penske, OGA

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 05-14-2003 01:05 PM

Useless News and World Distort
 
UW: 45
L & C: 69
UO: 78
Seattle U: 91
Willamette: 4th Tier
Gonzaga: 4th Tier

Discuss at will. Or talk about something more interesting. There has to be something more interesting than law skool rankings. Lay-offs? Mergers? Anybody getting paid out there?

Penske_Account 05-14-2003 03:48 PM

Useless News and World Distort
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Anybody getting paid out there?
I am! :D

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 05-14-2003 05:31 PM

Preston layoffs?
 
Somebody on the old boards is reporting at least 7 associate layoffs at Preston; did not specify Portland or Seattle.

Anybody care to comment? Or maybe mock our fallen brothers and sisters? Something?

Penske_Account 05-14-2003 06:12 PM

Preston layoffs?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Somebody on the old boards is reporting at least 7 associate layoffs at Preston; did not specify Portland or Seattle.

Anybody care to comment? Or maybe mock our fallen brothers and sisters?
I'll mock, as that is what I do best....that's what they get for working for a socialist bastard like Gates who wants to rape and pillage the estates of hardworking Americans, like the family farmers, through the estate tax.

lexdenovo 05-29-2003 12:32 PM

ahh,yes, the estate tax again ...
 
>>who wants to rape and pillage the estates of hardworking Americans, like the family farmers, through the estate tax.<<

so, let me get this straight. your daddy makes a cool couple hunny mill, then dies, and you get it. tax free. well, you DID work for it.

Lex.

NotFromHere 05-29-2003 01:16 PM

Estate tax
 
What the hell do you have against the estate tax? Anyone paying estate tax (family farms mostly excepted in this overly blanketed statement) can well afford it, or didn't plan properly. What are you...a Kennedy?

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 05-29-2003 02:27 PM

Estate tax
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
What the hell do you have against the estate tax? Anyone paying estate tax (family farms mostly excepted in this overly blanketed statement) can well afford it, or didn't plan properly. What are you...a Kennedy?
So we finally get a conversation going on this board, and it's about... politics?!? Curse you, Penske.

Anybody have anything NW-specific to say? Firm gossip? Beer? Wine? Copper River salmon?

Do the transactional types out there have enough to do? At least in Portland, litigation seems plenty busy (despite the fact that our courts are now closed on Fridays).

Penske_Account 05-29-2003 03:10 PM

Estate tax
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
So we finally get a conversation going on this board, and it's about... politics?!? Curse you, Penske.
Oh good, since we are on politics, I have a question, which PacNW is most likely to be a commie plant: Baghdad Jimbo McDermott, Patti bin Murray or the collective Seattle City Council??

Penske_Account 05-29-2003 03:24 PM

Estate tax
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone


Anybody have anything NW-specific to say? Firm gossip? Beer? Wine? Copper River salmon?
I had some excellent Copper River Salmon, grilled, on Saturday. We paired it with one of Oregon's finest, a 2001 Sineann Cabernet Sauvignon-McDuffee Vinyard. 8 thumbs up!! (and that doesn't count the dogs, who don't have opposable thumbs to stick up)

Speaking of NW wines I have had recently that I would recommend: on Friday I had a Cavatappi Sangiovese Molly's Cuvee-great with Italian/red sauce food. Very drinkable, i.e. buy a few bottles. On Sunday I had a 2002 Sineann Pinot Gris Oregon. Subtly chilled, at sunset, on the deck overlooking Lake Washington, I almost forgot about the misery of work. And the death tax.

Penske_Account 05-29-2003 03:27 PM

Estate tax
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone


Do the transactional types out there have enough to do?
April: 300+ billables.

May: I cracked 200 yesterday.

Is that busy enough for you Mr. Ramone?!? And you pikers wonder why I worry about the death tax...at this rate it will be affecting my assets very soon....:violin:

Penske_Account 05-29-2003 03:28 PM

hattrick!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
:violin:
Oh baby! How sweet it is!!

NotFromHere 05-30-2003 12:17 PM

Wine
 
So since you people seem to drink as much wine as I do, I have a question. About a year (or two) ago I had some very nice Canoe Ridge Merlot. I heard they lost their main winemaker and have not had any since. Is it still as good as it was or has it fallen from grace. Also, had a very nice Oregon pinot this weekend called King Estate - reasonably priced in the restaurant so I don't know what it goes for in the stores.

Penske_Account 06-17-2003 11:29 AM

seattle transactional attys
 
any midlevels looking for a new corp/r.e. gig? Ring me up at penske_account@yahoo.com.

Seriously.

evenodds 07-16-2003 11:55 AM

New Pro Bono Rule?
 
Lawyers with heart? It could be a rule
Justices may prod more attorneys to offer free legal help

By KATHY GEORGE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

Some lawyers say they can't spare the time or money to help poor clients for free.

Others would like to help, but know little about housing, domestic violence or other laws most affecting the poor.

Seattle lawyer William Broberg spends much of his time working pro bono cases, some of them in Judge Judith Hightower's courtroom. Such public service may be encouraged by the state Supreme Court.

Then there are lawyers like Bro.

As the Washington Supreme Court considers a proposed rule to encourage more free legal services, William Broberg stands out as a guy who needs no inducement.

Bro, as he is known, could double his income if he wanted to. He could buy art for the bare white walls of his Pioneer Square office.

But, in a profession that prizes deep-pocketed clients and billable hours, this young solo practitioner seems to prefer working for free.

The Supreme Court is expected to decide soon, possibly today, on a rule proposed by the Washington State Bar Association that would spell out for the first time how much public-interest service a lawyer should donate.

While the proposed rule recommends that every lawyer devote at least 30 hours a year to helping poor people otherwise shut out of the justice system, Broberg already has racked up about 100 hours of unpaid service this year.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...probono14.html

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 07-22-2003 05:39 PM

Celebrity Arrest
 
Survivor Chick Arrested in Portland Bar

Seems our very own Survivor Lindsey drunkenly bit a security guard. Anybody spent time at the Aura Bar?

Packwood, Tanya, assorted Blazers, now Lindsey. Stumptown is on an extended roll.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 08-04-2003 11:47 AM

Holland & Knight Takes Seattle
 
Holland & Knight wants to go from 17 lawyers to 150 in Seattle

Business Journal article; you have to register to read it, but it's free.

Thanks to E/O for the link.

Now somebody please talk about this. Or something else. Anything, really.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 08-19-2003 07:26 PM

NW Summers
 
Summer is winding down and all the now overfed summer associates are heading back to skool. Any good stories from the great NW? Are the big firms making offers to every summer who displayed a pulse?

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 08-26-2003 12:02 PM

Confirmation?
 
And for my 4th consecutive post....

Someone on the old board is reporting that "Peter Jarvis at Stoel Rives announced today that he will be leaving Stoel to open the Portland/Pacific Northwest office of Hinshaw & Culbertson."

True? Any additional insight? If true, any idea how many Stoel associates will go with Jarvis? And, most importantly: any idea what Hinshaw will pay?

Restorer 10-04-2003 01:24 AM

Law.com associate survey
 
Posted by Ollie 10/03



Regional results are here: http://www.law.com/special/professio...ty_chart.shtml

Nice of them to include all of one Portland firm. And interesting that said Portland firm finished dead last in the survey of Seattle firms (not surprising to see DWT first, as their associates seem to have convinced themselves that they've got a great shop; I'm not convinced).

Based on the Stoel associates (past and present) I've known, I'm guessing they would'nt have been no. 1 in Portland if there was any competition at all.

Ollie (hi Leagl!) Ramone

Penske_Account 10-07-2003 05:10 PM

test
 
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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 10-07-2003 05:29 PM

test
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
test
Test your new avatars elsewhere, Penske! This board is for substantive posts about life, love, and $$ here in the PacNW. I can barely keep up with my moderator obligations as is, without your little "test" posts.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 11-08-2003 04:02 PM

Layoffs, anyone?
 
Heard unconfirmed reports that Bullivant has recently let people go in Portland. Can anybody confirm? Feel free to PM me if you actually read this and know something but don't want to post.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 11-10-2003 11:48 AM

Heller, VLG?
 
A query from a poster who wishes to remain anon; any thoughts?

Quote:

What is Heller Ehrman's reputation in Seattle? What is/was Venture Law Group's?

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 01-15-2004 10:23 AM

A new year
 
And another chance for all you eager northwesterners to post something; anything; hell, even Penske's Seattle-based socks are welcome at this point.

Any year-end bonus news out there? Feel free to pm me if you want me to post any confidential info.

PNW Native, you in da house? Feel free to post here as much as you please. Your not likely to get flamed. Or to get any response at all, for that matter. But hey, give it a try.

Love, Ollie

NW Native 01-21-2004 09:20 PM

A new year
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
PNW Native, you in da house? Feel free to post here as much as you please. Your not likely to get flamed. Or to get any response at all, for that matter. But hey, give it a try.

Love, Ollie
I'm baaack. I haven't been pissed the whole time, just really busy at work. Today I finally got my portion of the brief turned in on my current case. Also got good news on another project so I'm feeling really good this evening. So, what do I do?!? Hit the boards. Call me stupid. (all together now - 'hi stupid')

Anyway, I read through most of the posts on this forum (took all of about 4 minutes) to get a feel for the place. There doesn't seem to be a theme. Is there any unwritten 'rule' about verboten subjects? I mean generally within the bounds of semi-civilized society. For example, given the other forums on the board, if I post a message about law school, or politics, kids, etc. is it likely someone will respond 'take it to the ....' forum?

I don't work in a firm, I'm strictly non-profit and work out of my house. I read the posts about local Seattle firms out of morbid curiosity but don't expect me to post any info about local firms.

Anyway, this message is long enough. I'll stop now.

NW Native 01-27-2004 10:17 PM

Hey, you
 
you know who you are. I saw you viewing this forum. Now post, damn it.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 01-28-2004 12:11 PM

My Little Board
 
Welcome, NWNative. You're unlikely to be run off here. Then again, you're unlikely to get any responses either. But feel free to give it a shot.

In theory, this board is, first and foremost, about gettin' paid in Seattle and Portland (and even in Tacoma, Spokane, Bend, Eugene, etc.). Secondarily, it's about PacNW life in general: housing issues, beer, wine, where to get the first Copper River salmon of the year, etc. I don't consider anything "off-topic" at this point. So feel free to post anything you want. Just don't be surprised by the deafening silence that meets you.

Ollie (Native as well) Ramone


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