You (all) lie!
 

In honour of the political quote of 2009.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I feel this title slights those socks that never post their own thoughts but instead simply copy the thoughts (or blogs) of others. I would argue that Ty has never lied on this board, but instead he unknowingly copies the lies of others.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

For the very same reason I would have gone with "Critical habitat of the post hoc."

Food board crossover
 

On the Food board today, as many may be aware (although having said that I am not really sure how many crossover posters we really have), there was a discussion of things that grow in CA, and it was implicitly asserted that everything grows there.........and apparently as related to small business failures that is a true statement........

Small-business bankruptcies rise 81% in California

Well done Arnold and the Dems of CA. Way to make what was once the land of promise one of the most business unfriendly states in the nation.....world. Of course the politicians who lie will blame it on the larger economy........but anyone who has ever had the unpleasure to do business there knows that the problem transcends the Great Recession. No offence.

:(

Bush lied!
 

Tora Bora constitutes one of the greatest military blunders in recent U.S. history.

The tax cuts notwithstanding, I truly believe Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld should be drawn and quartered in the public square for the failure outlined in that article, assuming that it is true. I hope after healthcare reform is done, Obama has the cojones to pursue a process that could yield this result.

No offence.

Re: Bush lied!
 

It sounds like a real error, but I don't get how it's a huge military blunder. It's not like bin Laden has done that much since then.

Re: Bush lied!
 

It was a blunder in how we deployed/utilised (underdeployed/misutilised?) our military, for what, ultimately, is a military action that continues to today, no?

eta: merde! I whiffed, oui?

Re: Bush lied!
 

Shit, I hope so. Otherwise, I've been watching a qualified defense by Ty of the Bush Administration, and a criticism of it by you, and I don't think I can fucking take that.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

The military effects of the screw-up haven't been huge. That's all. Needless to say, I would like to see bin Laden on trial in a courtroom in the Southern District of New York.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I read the first two pages, but there are eight pages! does the guy say how we could have sealed the border with more men? I know he says they wanted more men, and I'm sure cheney says no at page 4, but he also says you cannot seal the border.

does he say we should have paratrooped guys on the afghan side to seal behind?

Caption, please.
 

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I think the idea is not that we could have sealed the border per se, but that we had bin Laden pinned down and very well might have killed or captured him.

Re: Caption, please.
 

With their prediction that the Dow would break 36,000 vindicated before the end of the year, James K. Glassman and Kevin A. Hassett are congratulated by Vice President Vader and President Tinker Bell (not shown).

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Really? I would like to see him shot through the penis by a Marine sniper, begging for his life from American captors but inevitably dying because the nearest coalition forces medic is a woman and he won't sign the consent to treatment. But maybe I'm just a different breed of cat.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Don't you think he'd prefer to be a martyr like that? Why give him the satisfaction.

And one assumes that in this situation you'd be able to overcome your prior reluctance to truck with prison rape.

Conservatives are weird.
 

Some guy I don't know, at NRO's The Corner:

Call me nuts, but I don't think that it's possible to base a successful political movement on opposition to peace, tolerance, due process, and progress. Two or three of them, sure.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

2. Put him in a plexiglass box in Time Square and make him live the remainder of his life (including bathroom breaks) as a freak exhibit in the midst of the ugliest Capitalism and Western decadence have to offer.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Can we still shoot off his wang? Maybe put it in a different plexiglas box, just out of reach?

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Vegas, baby, VEGAS!

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I'm out.

Have a very merry Christmas!

Re: Conservatives are weird.
 

Nuts, or observant?

Re: You (all) lie!
 

No. He has to TCB in front of all the mouthbreathing tourists. But I agree with Sidd. Fuck NY... Vegas is a better venue.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

exactly. can't we sentence him to being a greeter at a off-strip casino?

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I was thinking bathroom attendant at a low-end strip club.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Maybe, until he strikes, but regardless it was a blunder in military policy, regardless of the effects.

Ps: I'd like to see Bush there with him.

Re: Bush lied!
 

2. Ty has been exposed as a rabble-rousing troll of a devil's advocate. the only thing missing in his defence of Bush was a cite to a free republic blog. Sad.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Except for the nudity that doesn't sound remarkably different from lawyer, at least at the associate level.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I am skeptical of your commitment to such an approach, so before I sign off on this, how does shooting off the wang compare to waterboarding?

Re: You (all) lie!
 

I come down on the side of the general who authorized courts-martial for soldiers who become pregnant or impregnate another (sexy!) in a war zone. I think it's actually a setback for women's full participation in active duty service to have it out there that, for humanitarian reasons, we won't do anything about a particular set of soldiers being able to render themselves unfit for duty if doing so is ordinarily punishable as malingering. I think it's unfortunate that the media, in focusing on the harsh and unpleasant reality of "punishing" people for being pregnant, have no responsibility for coming up with fairer solutions that don't result in the overwhelming majority of female soldiers being rendered second-class warriors because of the perception that they can buy a ticket out of the shit and are looking for the opportunity to avail themselves of the option when things get hard.

But as you know, I'm a professional apologist for policymakers that are daily faced with impossible situations and are asked to solve them, only to be easy targets for some snot-nose fresh out of J-School who's never broken any eggs only because he's never made any omelettes.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

he said hard. heh-heh
"J-school?"

Jefferson? Julilard? I thought Ty went to Florida Coastal.

Re: You (all) lie!
 

journalism.

(if that's right, I am embarassed and apologize. ooooh, ass.)

Re: You (all) lie!
 

Is it a whiff to call that a whiff? Atti?:confused::o

caption please
 

Re: caption please
 

The Day the Grinch Stole Christmas - Reality Edition.

Re: caption please
 

"sorry, but you're right. if you are obese, you'll now have to pay a surcharge to get medical coverage. unless, you come under the one exception - Dem senator."

christmas smile
 

Security theater.
 

NYT

What is the point of this? So the guy on the NWA flight waited until the plane was about to land, but he just as easily could have tried to set off his explosives in the middle of the flight or at the beginning. Now you can't read a book? How about the in-flight magazine?

Re: Security theater.
 

Although I love to see Federal bureaucratic incompetence exposed, this won't last, although bubblewrpping passengers at liftoff may not be far behind. Security > liberty to extremes.

Re: Security theater.
 

isn't the problem that the Bush restrictions on liquids were not followed by other countries (and mocked by socks here (hi Ty)) and almost led to this plane being destroyed. so one could get on in Amsterdam with liquid (the security for the flight is right at the gate) and this guy dd.

perhaps these restrictions on getting up are an attempt to convince the dutch to upgrade their security and adopt the Bush liquid restrictions?

Re: Security theater.
 

How much liquid did he have, and was it more than allowed? And I believe I have mocked many aspects of the TSA's current measures, but I don't recall that the liquids restrictions were included. As I'm sure you know, since you read my posts so closely, what bothers me is the emphasis on rules that inconvenience many people if not actual terrorists, see Detroit, rather than the use of competent people with sound discretion.