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					Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall  Interesting way to frame the debate.  "The dummies on one side are just as stupid as the morons on the other."  Yeah, sure.  Can't argue with that.
 What I can argue with is the fact that the other side formed a sub-party which, from almost all accounts is made up of morons who want to elect people who don't read papers, act like constitutional scholars and can't tell you what the 14th Amendment is about, can't articulate a simple thought, wear the fact that they are uneducated as a badge of honor and refuse to answer questions because their positions and ideas are so ridiculous that they cannot withstand any type of scrutiny.
 
 But stop insulting my fucking intelligence by saying that the fact that I disagree with their message means that I think they're stupider.  I base my opinions on their stupidity on the evidence they give me.  From Bush, who is and was a moron who didn't understand what the fuck was going on while in office and handed power over to his asshole advisors because he didn't, to Palin who objectively doesn't know a fucking thing to O'Donnell who is even worse, they're all idiots.  I disagree with everything Rove or Cheney or you say, but I don't think any of you or them are stupid.
 
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 I'm okay with most of that, although, as we have engaged in the past, I think on an IQ type of basis you overestimate how stupid each of W, Palin or O'Donnell are. I remain of the opinion that each of their respective IQs probably falls in the slightly above average category. My limited professional experience in this realm is having had experience in the HC sector with facilities for developmentally delayed/impaired adults and having some practical insight into how a below average IQ person comports themselves in the real world.
OTOH, Bush was an awful manager of the office of President, i.e. CEO of the US, and didn't have the background experience (either practical or from study) to successfully carry out his duties.
On a practical level my understanding is that, based on her relatively short stint, Palin was not a disaster as governor, although being the governor a backwardsarsed third world hick state is probably not that hard to screw up. OTOH, based on her resume, I wouldn't hire to be in charge of anything.
I am not sure what job O'Donnell is qualified for, other than poltical talking head, for which she has positioned herself for quite a lucrative career. Honestly, I'm jealous. I'd like to get paid 7 or 8 figures to travel around the country, speak off the cuff on politics, go on Maher or Fox or CNN or whatever and do the same, write a nonsensical book on constitutional thought. All of that would be a much easier gig than I have going on.