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Old 11-30-2010, 09:36 PM   #2
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Re: Milton Friedman, Socialist

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski View Post
I guess we'll see. with the congress by the balls you guys couldn't get 1 vote.

I thought it was because your leaders's olive branch was "fuck you. we got the votes."
Okay. Time to get serious. Hank, all snark aside (and I realize that leaves you close to naked in the terms of this board), but you don't really think this do you? You really think that a whole summer's worth of "well, we could do it this other way if that's what you like" and "we can't push for this because Snowe might not vote for it" and "gee, Chuck's with us, right? How about if we sell out this other way" was a giant "fuck off we got this?"

Seriously, honestly, and without any personal attack, I don't get where you are coming from on this one. Obama cut himself off at the knees with progressives by starting out in the middle, and moving farther that way to try to get even 1 R vote, only to have Rs move farther right. Do you honestly, sincerely see it differently?

ETA: To be slightly more constructive, what compromise do you think Obama could have offered that would have garnered that 1 vote? And don't say "thrown out all of his own goals and just enact tort reform" because even you aren't that insincere.
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