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Originally Posted by Adder

In the abstract, yes. But as a mantra, which at times it seems to be for you, it is no more intellectual than the party subscription that you claim to abhor.

In other words, "a pox on both their houses" divorced from issue by issue analysis is just as much an empty ideology as party affiliation.



As I said, we have been doing the degrading thing at least since Watergate.

Aside from your tendency toward Schumpter-style fantasies of catharsis, I'm not sure why you think the end path is rebuilding rather than empty Bachmann-style hypocrisy or Paul-style absurdity.

I know it pains you, when it comes to the two present choices, one party is dominated by its extreme, reality-defying fringe and the other by it's consensus-seeking, compromising center (i.e., the White House). Generally speaking, one is less evil than the other, and I'm not willing to back the more-evil because I have no faith that from destruction comes beauty.

I see it eventually leading to a break up of the USA into smaller regional "nation-states", maybe loosely aligned in a defence pact. I would be happy to live in either my current locale (despite criticism of the local culture) or my native Northeast and be de-coupled from the South and flyoverland. No offence. Of course my plan is to leave the US in about 12-15 years anyhow. No offence.