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Old 12-27-2010, 09:53 PM   #4090
Hank Chinaski
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Re: A little Christmas present for Penske

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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch View Post
In a real, non-anonymous discussion, I would be pointing out that the failure of inner-city schools is a bullshit crocodile tears tactic. The solution for those schools is to redistribute the high-quality teaching staff of white suburban schools, which is never. Gonna. Happen. Every President since W has espoused school choice as the solution to failing schools. We already have school choice; it's just limited to the teaching staff, and look what happens -- the schools with the most brown kids fail and their parents don't avail themselves of "the options."

Choice is bullshit. I'm calling P on the bullshit that is the opposite of choice -- "Waaah, I bought a house in this neighborhood and it was the best house I could afford and the schools still aren't good enough." Sounds to me like you optimized for the wrong variable, and now you want to compare your plight with an inner-city family's? 'Cause otherwise, you're make an argument that "public schools" suck because somebody else's school does, which is a bit like saying cars are shitty because some people are still driving beaters.
i said my kids' school was fine. we live at 10 mile road. my son has 10 friends that the following applies to:

no dad, strong mom. kid started in Detroit schools. by third grade or so the mom busted something to get the kid an address north of 8 mile, and in my kids' friends, north of 10 mile. at the same time lots of other parents dragged junior to charter schools.

result? the kids left in Detroit schools drop out at 60%. I believe in our earlier rehash of this argument you suggested the concerned parents who dragged their kids out of these fucked up schools were at fault, and I asked if you, you brave pioneer, would leave your child in a school with a 60% dropout rate, since your kid being there would marginally improve the school.

you ignored the question. I'll answer that I would get my kid the fuck of out dodge, and I do not blame any parent who did the same.

you new theory is to take teachers that are deemed "Good" and make them quit one school district and go to some other? like freedom to contract is gone in your world?

I don't have a solution to fix how fucked up it is for the kids stuck after everyone who can get out gets out, but your "choice; they can homeschool, is broken because our dads could have had this same discussion.

annotated version: the whole world doesn't live in colonials an hour outside both napa and muir.
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