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					Originally Posted by Cletus Miller  I was under the (possibly? certainly? mistaken) impression that SS wouldn't be selling the bonds, but having them repaid. | 
	
 I don't see how this relates to Burger's question.  Today, before my fantasy world, the trust fund redeems the bonds (i.e. has them repaid by treasury).  There is currently a deficit, so treasury issues new bonds to pay for it (oddly enough, likely at lower rates, but let's leave that aside).  But net change in the $14T in debt is zero, no?  Instead of owning the trust fund, new bond holders are now owed.
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		| If they are actually going to be selling them on the open market, (1) they will recover less than face | 
	
 Is that right?  Assuming that they could actually sell their 
special issue securities, it like a lot of what they hold maybe at well above market interest rates.