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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You believe the figures.
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No. I don't believe the figures. I have no means to know one way or the other whether they are right or wrong.
I have as yet seen no serious attempt to refute them, and have reason to believe that they are the best that can be done with the uncertainty inherent in any long term projection.
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I think you'll be wrong. I'm quite confident of it. There is nothing productive we can discuss about this further.
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Right. Which is why I didn't bring up the CBO figures. Instead I mentioned what I thought was beyond dispute - doing nothing would have left major fiscal issues unaddressed.
You jump from that to repeating that we could have had cost containment first. While that's literally true, as we have discussed before, it ignores the facts that that isn't what those in power wanted to do, and it isn't even something those in the minority raised seriously either.