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Old 08-18-2011, 07:34 PM   #2888
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Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
I think Club likes the GOP position on the debt ceiling because he does not like to pay taxes and is in favor of things that cut government spending. I think Club, like many Republicans, attacks Obama for not showing "leadership" when what he really means is that he disagrees with Obama's priorities and policy views. When Obama does show leadership, Club tends to disagree with him, IIRC. Club generally does not agree with Obama, and is quick to find fault with him -- e.g., Obama is making a bad choice because a campaign spokesman put out a statement about Bachmann's entry into the race seven weeks ago. (If the spokesperson had said nothing, you could call it a lack of leadership.)

None of that is that interesting to me because I feel like I understand where he's coming from. What I'm interested in is what he thinks is wrong with the economy, and what he really thinks Obama could have done about it. There is this knee-jerk view on the right that tax cuts are always good because they permit more business investment, and that we'd be out of this recession if only the government collected and spent less money. Not sure whether that's what Club thinks or whether he was looking for some other form of leadership.
This is laughable. I have said countless times that while I hate taxes, I recognize that to solve the long term structural issues the math doesn't work without them.

Obama has not shown leadership on these issues. He put out 1 plan, that was voted down in the Senate 97-0. Throughout the debt ceiling negotiations, he never put out a plan. David Gergen has my proxy on Obama and his lack of leadership in the last 6 months. If you didn't see him on CNN last night, he pretty well summarized my thoughts.
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