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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

There you go, getting closer to the talking points! He may have said it was a plan, but we don't think it was detailed enough, we don't think it was good enough, we really wanted a bill - that's what Fox wants you to say.

Look up and watch the speech and go google for the correspondence. Had you paid attention, and were you not in denial, you'd realize he was both more forthcoming and more public in the process than any other leader in Washington.

You need to remember, the lies and obfuscations mainly work among people who have just been watching Fox. To everyone else, Obama had most of the visibility in this process.

80% of the country watches fox?

Conf. to club- see you reap what you sow.