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Old 04-06-2012, 10:30 AM   #1400
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Re: Pepper sprayed for public safety.

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski View Post
the supreme court will often vote as 1 to preserve its apparent authority. Example: when it ordered Nixon to turn over the tapes (thus letting Hillary and the other unshaven hounds to kill what had been one of our best presidencies) it voted 8-0. There is no way such a close question wasn't more divided, but the Justices knew that voting as one was inmportant. Same thing happened in Brown v. Board.
There is a reason you don't have any examples from my lifetime.

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what is different now is that liberal justices don't give two fucks about the country.
To the extent that you mean that conservatives have in the past given in to the tide of history for the sake of unity, I think you're right. To the extent that you expect liberal to do the opposite, whatever.

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See bush v. Gore.
Yes, if only the liberal judges had acquiesced in the conservatives' purely political debasement of themselves. It would have been so wonderful for the country.

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HCR should die 9-0. It won't because of politics, but not from the conservsative side.
If it dies, it's entirely because of politics from the conservative side. Scalia (and Kennedy if memory serves) has already ruled that the commerce clause extends to simple possession of marijuana grown on your own property (thus having never moved in interstate commerce), based on the highly questionable assumption that your possession increases demand for marijuana, which is otherwise traded across state lines. There is literally no way to logically square that position with notion that the commerce clause does not extent to regulating how people pay for health care as part of an comprehensive scheme of health care regulation, but based on the oral arguments, at least Scalia seems poised to try.

Btw, should they strike it down, the result is going to be a massive waive of litigation arguing that all kinds of things are regulations of impermissible "inactivity," 99.9% of which are going to be rejected as silly attempts to shift the frame of reference. Which, of course, is exactly what the mandate opponents seem to have successfully done here.
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