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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Those aren't swing voters. Those are fools. If you think the GOP is going to flip Roe, you're nuts. The party that does that destroys its future. Even the idiots running the GOP know that's suicide. Hence, the GOP always manages to avoid putting an anti-Roe vote on the Court when it would matter. Every time it's been able to do so, it's put a strange moderate on the Court, who upholds Roe's essential premise.

And the contraception thing is just nonsense. Nobody's barring anyone from getting contraception. That's a media crafted wedge issue.

And Akin? He's an idiot, but unless you live in his state, who cares?

Regarding gay marriage, perhaps Romney would have been problematic. But I don't think so. He was such a vote whore I can't seem him doing anything but punting on the issue by saying, "It's a states' rights thing." Which is, given the way states are leaning on the issue, shrugging at inevitable across-the-nation legalization, state by state.

Immigration was the only social issue I see with which a rational, shrewd voter could find concern with the GOP. Romney would have to take a harsh line on that to placate the SW GOP voters, and right wingers in TX. That one would be a problem.

But generally, save immigration, in times like these, social issues are for whiffle voters... pliable, easily manipulated, emotional minds. The most frivolous of unserious voters. (Don't like that? I don't give a shit. If you aren't putting jobs and the economy above everything else - by miles - you're a nerf intellect, and I'd take any derision from you on the subject as a compliment.)

Call them whatever you want to call them. I wasn't one of them. But I think your ideal candidate, the socially liberal but fiscally conservative one, could have beaten Obama.