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					Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall  So you were saying nothing. Got it. 
 Your point seemed to be that Obama won because of distaste of Romney as opposed to excitement about Obama. And you and Hank seem to think that the swing voters (people like you and Hank, apparently) are the reasons why Obama won. I think that's ridiculous. They (or you) are no more the reason why Obama won than gay voters or Latinos or women or hard-core Obama supporters.
 
 You and Hank really just wanted to say Obama didn't win because of enthusiasm about him or the job he's doing--at least not in your very important swing voter eyes. I say that thought process is silly and devalues the impact of black voters who stood in line for 6 hours to cast their ballot or youth voters who voted for him for the first time, etc.
 
 Whatever.
 
 TM
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 I have no doubt there are some aging white guys who relunctantly voted for Obama, and that if you add them all up, that might make a difference in some key states like Ohio or Florida (Florida was close enough so the wiccan vote can be seen as determinative).
But Obama didn't eke this out.  He won by over 100 electoral votes - a landslide.  And people weren't staying home because they were unenthusiastic - there was a big turnout. 
The story of what made that happen is about a lot more blacks, hispanics, and young people voting, and a story about the gender gap widening.  
Old white men and their naval gazing ain't the story here guys. 
The story of the election is the country saying, "Hey, baldy - get your fat and lazy white ass offa the lawn, get in the ktichen, and wash up your own damn dishes." It's not about the fat white guys not being able to figure out if they want to barbeque chicken or burgers.