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Eh. A bit ironic to write an article saying Affleck shut down a conversation when it's Affleck's blow up that creates the opportunity for the publication of the article, no?
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I'm very confused about the words that your fingers are creating. Is your point really that we are having a conversation about what Ben Asshat refused to discuss because people who want to have the conversation have pointed out that Assfleck (and people like him) refuse to have the conversation, thus crediting Assflack for the conversation? That can't possibly be what you're saying, because that would be fucking ridiculous.
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I'm a bit sick of conversations saying we should have the conversation rather than actually having it. I've got a friend who is an Islamic feminist scholar. Yes, she gets fundy death threats. She may be among their most feared enemy in many ways, much like they hated Mahfouz and those like him who wrote engagingly about the interactions among faiths. She also gets shat on pretty regularly and virulently by Western feminists, though, whose reaction to the idea of Islamic feminism tends to run somewhere between dismissal and Maheresque derision. The Maher's of the world aren't very useful to the discussion because they've already made their mind up.
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Jesus fucking Christ, man. Get past Maher. Forget him already. The woman in the article has things to say. I don't understand why they should be ignored because Western feminists are dismissive or you're sick of people wanting to have the conversation without having it.
The point of the article to me seems to be that people plug their ears when it comes to critiques of (sections of) Islam because it rubs liberals the wrong way to criticize people who are constantly shit on for the acts of a few that tend to be attributed to the whole. In fact, that seems to be exactly what happened on this board.
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If you're interested in following more regular conversations about women in the Muslim world, on twitter I maintain a list called "WoMENA" that follows women writers and journalists in MENA.
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I am not on or interested in twitter.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The gang at FP Interrupted, a group of women journalists and foreign policy experts, also does a weekly summary of their articles and publications every Friday. The discussion in those places about things like rape and sexual assault during the Egyptian demonstrations tends to be a lot more substantive and less full of pithy little bits of prejudice.
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You can't help but sound like a superior dickhead even when you're trying to be helpful, can you?
I checked out the website's archives and it looks like interesting reading.
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