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[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I am only back because T had nothing to do with my leaving, and I respect him, and grow from honest conversation on this issue. I am still gone other than this limited exception.

I guess I wonder what you mean by "whites giving stuff up?" [edit- Re-reading I think you mean more than just accepting we are advantaged, but then behaving based upon the knowledge?]

My old biggest client has a black GC. He flat out looks for black candidates to fill any spots he has.

I've a black friend who is into posting race themed topics on FB. One led to one white person being called out for not recognizing the advantages she had. This led to another white guy posting that he had not sought out the really good powerful jobs that all white people are guaranteed and taking some lesser jobs so as not to profit from his advantages. (the sarcasm is not mine, but unintentionally in his post) I thought man, you should have taken the powerful job and behaved like the black GC if you really wanted to correct shit.

I think I have used what power i have, although the area I am in is so rarified I don't have as much opportunity. GC had to fill a patent counsel position; he looked for a year before giving up on a black candidate*. Still I do use what I can where i can. Although in retrospect over the years there were people i should have helped that I didn't.

The thing that troubles me is regardless of all the people who might pull up kids, lots can't be pulled up. Detroit schools have some silly big drop out rate. How do you fix a 30/40 % rate of kids w/o HS degrees? My kids are scrambling with college degrees. No HS diploma is not a good base for em's future. I do not know how to correct this, and some of those kids will certainly get to crime, and ..... I don't know.


*given the poison on this board that will focus on this point- I could offer theories for why there are few blacks with engineering degrees in law school, but it would distract.

Welcome back (for the sole purpose of responding to Thurgreed's post and growing from your honest interactions with him, while recognizing that for all other purposes you are not really "back")!