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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about something very specific--violence committed in the name of religion (or maybe tolerance levels for such violence).
And yeah, it helps that they've made arrests and are holding police for questioning. But the question remains, had she actually burned the Koran, would there be all this action? Isn't that the crux of the conversation we were having?
And I don't really understand why you think bombarding me with analogies is helping. I don't agree that this was like Ferguson and I wish you'd stop comparing the two.
But even if that analogy did fit, so what? Saying we're super violent and mentioning instances where we do stupid violent shit doesn't render Muslims killing blasphemers non-existent or correct. Can I not hold two similar opinions about how awful violence is and how insane the causes are? Does it make it less awful that (i) a mob will stone someone to death in the street because it's acceptable to do in the name of Islam if one defaces the Koran if (ii) cops in the US shoot unarmed black people?
TM
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First of all, as you know from these boards, limiting conversation to your chosen topic is impossible. I have no interest in being deposed.
I may find the mob violence interesting for different reasons than you. I find it interesting because it is a galvanizing moment there from what I can see. The reaction to it appears pretty overwhelming. And very rapid. As opposed to, say, Saudi Arabia, where I have trouble seeing such a reaction, or India, where there has been some horrific violence against women but where the reaction is more muted and limited. That reaction in Afghanistan is really interesting. Well, at least to me. It is the possibility and direction of change that interests me. Sorry if that's not what you want to talk about.
I don't just suspect but am pretty damn certain both of us, and just about everyone on this board, thinks both the mob violence here and the police violence in Ferguson are very bad things. Did you really pose that as a question someone (that is, me) might argue with you about?