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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
These jokes don't bother me. He's a fucking comedian. Comedians make jokes about fat people.
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I agree. I once saw a black comedian (can't remember who it was -- no one particularly famous, at least at the time) do a thoroughly hilarious run of jokes about "fat black women." Several such women in the audience were gasping with laughter.
What bothered me about these jokes was they were bad, lame, the kind of jokes we told in 6th grade.
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The Jew jokes (and the willingness to go back to that well) are troubling.
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Those bother me more, but I don't have a categorical objection to these or, really, any other tasteless and offensive jokes. But the "edgier" the joke gets, the funnier it better be. The same guy I reference above did a whole sequence on stereotypes and how there was truth behind all of them. And, again, hilarious. But he knew he was taking a big risk and knew that it better be funny enough to be worth it.
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The uppercut joke is just stupid.
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Yes, awful. A joke about hitting women pushes boundaries so far that it's hard to imagine one being funny enough to be worth it. That one wasn't close.
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The point of the joke has to be the stereotype. Using stereotypes to make jokes is a different animal. It is very difficult to do in a one-off situation like Twitter.
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Agree. And this is a small sample-size, I acknowledge -- but the sense that he didn't "get" this basic issue, didn't realize that what he posted was so un-funny as to just make him look like an asshole, is sad.