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Old 04-01-2015, 11:34 AM   #2448
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch View Post
I'm saying that I acknowledge having only a small sample size, but that small sample size is a bunch of consistently awful jokes. Not awful because they are offensive, but because they aren't funny and are stupid.

He could be a fantastically good comedian. The selection here could be horribly unfair, a completely unrepresentative .0001% of the jokes he's told. But it's the sample that I'm looking at and I don't just write it off as irrelevant just because "lots of people tell bad jokes on twitter." So what? Lots of people tell bad jokes everywhere. The vast majority of people would also suck ass in a stand-up routine, and if Noah also sucked ass at stand-up you wouldn't say "it's okay, most people would do badly there."

What you're saying -- essentially, "yes, these jokes suck, but his stand-up is good and that's more relevant to the job he'll have, especially since he probably won't be writing his own material" -- is a different and sensible response. I don't agree or disagree with it, because I haven't seen his stand-up. But it's a qualitatively different response than saying "it's okay, lots of people come across as unfunny or bigoted on twitter."
I'm sorry. I'm truly having trouble with this conversation. And it's even more troubling that all of you, who pride yourselves on being knowledgeable and who usually spend more than 10 seconds researching a topic before drawing conclusions, have so quickly determined the guy isn't funny and might be offensive based on the 6 jokes out of nine fucking thousand from 5 years ago that aren't funny. And I don't know where you got that last quote in the last paragraph, but it sure seems like you're pulling it out of your ass.

I don't have to argue that we should look at his larger body of work and not just the handful of jokes people dug up from his twitter feed to decide whether he should have the job because that is so obvious that it's completely pointless to say. If your argument is going to continue to be, "But I looked at those jokes," I'm going to have to give up on this conversation. Hey! Remember those 6 missed shots Jordan took in the Finals against the Lakers? He probably fucking sucks.

Stewart brought him to the show and loves the guy. That alone should be enough for you to give him the benefit of the doubt, or at least a fucking shot.

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Already gave a longer response, but in essence I'm saying that, if comedians post jokes on Twitter, I hope they are generally a lot funnier than these or I'm not particularly interested in those comedians.
Whatever.

I am truly floored by all of your reactions to this. This is absolutely ridiculous.

Patton's take: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...nd-trevor-noah

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