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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  I know it won't make a difference, but I have to try...  So, um, please vote for Johnson.  Pretty please?  
 He's polling nationally at 9%.  If he can get into double digits, that's a huge boost to Libertarianism.  Sure, he's not a real Libertarian.  I get that.  But nobody is.  Nobody's a "real" anything because govt inevitably requires compromise.  Every vote for Johnson (or Stein, is you've Green sympathies) is a vote against the two party system that's given us this pair of deplorable pieces of shit from which to choose.
 
 McMullin is a bespoke Utah candidate.  A vote for him is a novelty vote.  It is truly throwing away your ballot.  Johnson and Weld may not be exactly what you demand or expect, but they're closer than anybody else on the stage, and they get that word we're all forgetting... that word that progressives and right-wingers ignore... back into the election lexicon: "Liberty."
 
 I'm happily and proudly voting for Johnson, clueless as he might be.  I'd implore you to do the same.  Because in case you aren't paying attention, you have a quasi-criminal statist cipher running against a con man with dictatorial leanings.  You think it's going to get any better next cycle?  You probably think the choice couldn't be any shittier than these two.  You're wrong.  It can, and it will.  If a third party doesn't emerge, we're fucked.  Johnson and Stein are carrying the flags of the only alternative parties which can put reasonable numbers on the board.  I view the decision to vote for one of the two of them as the only logical and ethically defensible choice.
 
 Johnson 2016.  Or Stein 2016.  Do what you know is right.
 |  We're not going to get a meaningful third party because our Constitution essentially establishes a two-party system.  Congressional districts and Senate seats are single seats going to the winner, and this means that voting for a third party is pissing away your vote.  A third party that wins 20% everywhere will not be represented in the government, and people will stop voting for it quickly.  The only way a third party is going to get any traction is if it can get a majority of voters in some region, and in our country that will mean the South, which I suspect is not the kind of third party you want.
 
What you really want is a new GOP, one that decides that it can't win on its Trumpist slide and goes in a different direction.  To get it, you should vote for Democrats until the GOP comes around.
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