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Old 07-30-2019, 11:58 AM   #2566
ThurgreedMarshall
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Re: I'm on a roll

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I literally don’t recall when last I saw or heard from Biden (was it the debate?). A candidate who does best when he he’s avoiding attention sounds like a problem. Nominating Biden is the closest possible replay of 2016. I don’t share your confidence that the outcome will be different this time, especially because Joe not meaningfully better at connecting with people than Hillary. Is not being a woman enough?

Of course, he’s also not a Clinton, but I don’t think 45 will have any trouble painting Joe as an establishment insider.

I just don’t have any faith that the white people you have in mind will pick any Dem over 45’s racism. We need someone who is selling more than “let’s go back to 2015.”
I completely disagree.

I do not understand why people can't take into account the ridiculously insane set of circumstances that occurred the last time around (most importantly, Comey fucking everything up right before the election) combined with the utter and complete failure and threat to democracy Trump has turned out to be.

You keep acting like the 35-40% of this country that is irredeemably racist is who anyone is trying to convince. Fuck those people. Those people are fucking gone. They would vote for Hitler if he reincarnated himself as a Republican.

It's the other white people who matter. The ones in Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, and all of the others just like them who thought they couldn't vote for Hillary or felt like having a black President was just a bit much. They're the ones that need to flip or actually come out and vote against Trump. Everyone else is already energized. I don't want to hear about the young, and women, and blacks, and Latinx, and LGBT. If they can't get excited about voting against this fucking lunatic, Bernie, Mayor Pete or Kamala Harris ain't gonna fucking get them over the hump.

So whether Biden gaffs here and there during his run makes absolutely no difference. Trump says out-and-out crazy, racist shit constantly. If you don't vote for Biden (or against Trump) because Biden accidentally puts his foot in his mouth, you are fatally fucking stupid and there is no candidate that will work.

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