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Old 07-30-2019, 04:04 PM   #2586
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
The argument that we can never know if there was successful vote changing by Russians (effective and material hacking, mind you, as opposed to hacking in Illinois, where Hillary won) because Trump obstructed (despite Mueller having used the broadest possible powers to investigate Russians for hacking and indicting twelve of them for it without finding any link between them and Trump) is pretty dumb.

The argument that it's just a matter of time until we find the Russians changed votes (elapse of time + ??? = a finding Russians clanged votes) is a ticket to Crazytown.

If the Russians changed votes, Mueller'd have found it. That was just a matter of Mueller examining electronic data Trump could not preclude him from accessing. He didn't find it. He found attempts to do so which were ineffective.
If I were a Russian tasked with manipulating and undermining US elections, I would not prioritize hacking voting systems to change the votes cast, for a few different reasons.

At the same, for the last two years we keep learning about stuff that actually happened that was denied at the time and seems totally implausible. I still can't get over that Jarod Kushner asked the Russians about using a secure channel at their embassy. That's Crazytown.
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