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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I don't think that. You do. That was my point.
I think the following:
A majority of voters in states that matter in the Electoral College don't care for the impeachment, or the battling between Trump and the Democrats. I labeled them moderates. You said the only people who fit that definition were conservatives. I could be wrong, and you likely are wrong, as you've now noted.
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I'm not sure what is wrong with you. Here's what I said:
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One of the GOP talking points that you have internalized is that whatever it is, it's always good news for Trump, and now the Democrats have gone and thrown him in the briar patch again. I don't buy it. For one thing, Trump really seems bothered by impeachment. Also, I don't get which voters might decide that they don't like him, but are going to go back to him because we spend several months talking about how he used the government to smear Joe Biden. The way this trick works is, Trump does x, and someone like Nancy Pelosi does or says y in response, and the GOP talking head shifts the focus from x to y and says, you know, voters really don't like it when Pelosi overreaches. It plays to the stereotype of the centrist disengaged voter guy who doesn't much like Washington at all, and the implication is that Democrats should just shrink into the wallpaper until voter guy votes them back into office. There are voters who don't like it when Democrats do things. They're called conservatives.
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I was
not talking specifically about impeachment and I was
not talking about swing states in the Electoral College -- I wasn't talking about your "definition" at all. I was talking about your propensity to spew things that GOP strategists say on cable TV all the time as if you just thought of them yourself.
Just for a second, let's think about the notion that there are key swing voters who don't like "the battling between Trump and the Democrats." How do Democrats win those people over? By giving in to Trump until he's happy? If you were a Democratic strategist, what would you do to win those people over?