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Old 04-27-2020, 11:08 AM   #1533
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Re: Stop burning the house to smoke out the mouse.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Because Less is right. But what Less is saying requires “acceptable death.”

Watch this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lze-rMYLf2E

Obviously Katz is right. Ty will cite how Yale disavowed what he said, via sophistry and creating straw men. Icky, honestly, genuinely, will argue “you first.”

I’m in. I’m going first. I see both need and opportunity and so I’m going to engage with the public and reopen and possibly catch this. If I’m the outlier, you can all laugh at my folly. What’s the alternative? Sit around and wait for testing and tracing in 2021?

Less is right. I only disagree with him in terms of slowing things down with social distancing as much as possible. Because, as McCain argued about global warming, why not?

There is no counter. That’s why you’re not hearing one. The best is Ty’s argument that if we’re too early, we could damage the economy even more. Okay. But how long does he suggest we wait? He won’t say. He doesn’t know.

Well, here’s a fact: One more month and tons of people and businesses are wrecked.

I should be on his side. We’re stacked for 6 months of dry carry. But I work with small businesspeople. A lot of them are fucked - permanently closed - if we go another 45 days.

So if I sound pissed, I am. I get the science. I don’t need somebody talking about what Gates said. Gates is fucking clueless. Some of the flat out dumbest shit on how to handle this is coming from tech people. They have no clue because this is not their world.

It’s hard to ascertain who’s dumber in this country: People protesting to open recklessly and without reasonable limitations, or people who are sure they know best. Both sound like fucking idiots at the moment.
There's nowhere in the world with herd immunity and still an open question as to whether and to what degree people who have recovered are immune. Until we know that herd immunity is possible, I don't think we should pick it as a strategy.

There are places in the world that have controlled (and in New Zealand perhaps eliminated) the spread of the virus with testing and tracing. That's the proven strategy. It should be the goal (too bad we completely fucked up the testing and don't have the capacity) until there is another option.

But really, we should just be listening to the epidemiologists, because none of us know what the fuck we are talking about.
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