Pepper sprayed for public safety.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

hope away!

I actually think who is doing water to whom (bombs, water, etc.) is more important than equivalence in what they each say about you. Apparently you think otherwise.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

you can't see it's a chicken or the egg thing? of course not. if this board were around during the early 40s you'd be questioning the French resistance killing Nazis and taking the position the Holocaust doesn't justify anything.

A more apt analogy would be the French resistance crossing the border into Germany and killing sleeping German children on the off chance they'd grow up to be Nazis.

And yeah, I'd disapprove of that too.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Adder

A more apt analogy would be the French resistance crossing the border into Germany and killing sleeping German children on the off chance they'd grow up to be Nazis.

And yeah, I'd disapprove of that too.

The French resistance didn't need to do that because the US and UK airforces were taking care of it.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

The French resistance didn't need to do that because the US and UK airforces were taking care of it.

There is something less personal and therefore less immediately objectionable about dropping bombs on the city than in removing the lifeline to specific children. In particular in the midst of total war.

But Israel and Palestinians are not in the midst of total war, nor are the total war tactics of the second world war something to be looked back on fondly.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I actually think who is doing water to whom (bombs, water, etc.) is more important than equivalence in what they each say about you. Apparently you think otherwise.

do you think there might be a reason the IDF wants to keep the water source for Israeli settlers only accesible to Israeli settlers? can you think of one good reason in a land plagued by people wanting to do genocide on one's peoples?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

do you think there might be a reason the IDF wants to keep the water source for Israeli settlers only accesible to Israeli settlers? can you think of one good reason in a land plagued by people wanting to do genocide on one's peoples?

Is there any point at which you would begin to question Israeli tactics? You really have no doubt about a policy that seems to threaten the lives of innocents on mere possibility that those water containers will be used in unsavory ways?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

do you think there might be a reason the IDF wants to keep the water source for Israeli settlers only accesible to Israeli settlers? can you think of one good reason in a land plagued by people wanting to do genocide on one's peoples?

Do you seriously think it's a good idea to deny water to newborn babies because other Palestinians are genocidal terrorists?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Do you seriously think it's a good idea to deny water to newborn babies because other Palestinians are genocidal terrorists?

I'm trying to teach you critical resoning skills, to make you see grey instead of the black and white that frames your every world view. What I might decide to do with water is irrelevent. I'm not living where there are people who would poison my children's water if they could.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I'm trying to teach you critical resoning skills, to make you see grey instead of the black and white that frames your every world view. What I might decide to do with water is irrelevent. I'm not living where there are people who would poison my children's water if they could.

How does confiscating water containers prevent the poisoning of your children's water supply?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

How does confiscating water containers prevent the poisoning of your children's water supply?

they were to have no access to the water is how I read the report.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

they were to have no access to the water is how I read the report.

Indeed. You may want to read that again. And again. Soon, I suspect, you will understand the issue.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Indeed. You may want to read that again. And again. Soon, I suspect, you will understand the issue.

"There is reason to suspect they used the above merchandise for carrying out an offense." Avi's bosses claim the "offense" is stealing water from a pipe. This is why the containers are seized - with no inquiry, no trial. Welcome to the land of lawlessness and evil.........This water is for Jews only.The stealing of water, whether it did or didn't take place, is of course only the excuse. ....... The authorities won't allow them to connect to the water pipe running through their fields; pipes whose water is flowing to saturate the settlers' green vineyards and fields."

Okay. I read it again.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

"There is reason to suspect they used the above merchandise for carrying out an offense." Avi's bosses claim the "offense" is stealing water from a pipe. This is why the containers are seized - with no inquiry, no trial. Welcome to the land of lawlessness and evil.........This water is for Jews only.The stealing of water, whether it did or didn't take place, is of course only the excuse. ....... The authorities won't allow them to connect to the water pipe running through their fields; pipes whose water is flowing to saturate the settlers' green vineyards and fields."

Okay. I read it again.

And again, how does confiscating their water containers prevent the poisoning of the water supply?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

"There is reason to suspect they used the above merchandise for carrying out an offense." Avi's bosses claim the "offense" is stealing water from a pipe. This is why the containers are seized - with no inquiry, no trial. Welcome to the land of lawlessness and evil.........This water is for Jews only.The stealing of water, whether it did or didn't take place, is of course only the excuse. ....... The authorities won't allow them to connect to the water pipe running through their fields; pipes whose water is flowing to saturate the settlers' green vineyards and fields."

Okay. I read it again.

Oh, I wanted you to read your own words again. I thought they were on to something.

By the way, who is supplying that water? Where does it come from?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

And again, how does confiscating their water containers prevent the poisoning of the water supply?

they aren't to have access to the water. to poison the water they'd need access. perhaps taking the water back makes it clear they aren't to go near the water, so that anyone who does go near the water can be seen as a threat. you are reading a blog from, it would appear, an Israeli who is as out there as any of Ty's DU american bloggers. I don't know that he has accurately mentioned all facts, but he has a sort of clear bias, don't you think? I'm simply pointing out there is a reason I could see for trying to keep Israeli water only to Israelis. That they take back water that has already been "stolen," instead of preventing future "thefts" may be silly, it may also not be any part of the motivation for the IDF. The IDF may simply be fucking with these people. I admit I can't know what is going on from this article- why can't you admit there may be a valid reason for the action?