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[Hank Chinaski]

someone who feels that life started on the Earth from spontaneous generation (or whatever the alternative to creationism is- these guys say they believe in evolution, but that is another question) said he does not believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe; aren't those inconsistent?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

someone who feels that life started on the Earth from spontaneous generation (or whatever the alternative to creationism is- these guys say they believe in evolution, but that is another question) said he does not believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe; aren't those inconsistent?

Not necessarily, although someone saying that is probably underestimating the size of the universe.

Who said that?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Not necessarily, although someone saying that is probably underestimating the size of the universe.

Who said that?

Yes necessarily, I think. But I'm wanting people to support the answer with an explanation of how the math that supports spontaneous generation could negate the plural. Not sure you are up to it, but have a shot.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Yes necessarily, I think. But I'm wanting people to support the answer with an explanation of how the math that supports spontaneous generation could negate the plural. Not sure you are up to it, but have a shot.

You're assuming a traansitive property that isn't there. A huge set of happy coincidences creates the solar system. I don't think science has ruled that happening elsewhere is impossible. Current conventional wisdom appears to be only that we haven't found evidence of another ecosystem that would support human life yet.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

You're assuming a traansitive property that isn't there. A huge set of happy coincidences creates the solar system. I don't think science has ruled that happening elsewhere is impossible. Current conventional wisdom appears to be only that we haven't found evidence of another ecosystem that would support human life yet.

Translation: I'm not aware of the math that support the postulate that god didn't create everything.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

someone who feels that life started on the Earth from spontaneous generation (or whatever the alternative to creationism is- these guys say they believe in evolution, but that is another question) said he does not believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe; aren't those inconsistent?

You inserted the modifier "intelligent." Is that necessary to your argument?

I anticipate (not "believe"; anticipate) that there is matter capable of self-replication elsewhere in the universe. I also anticipate that bipedal, bilaterally symmetrical carbon-based humanoids that are universally described by 20th-21st century alien encounterists starting, by some enormous coincidence, exactly during the Jet Age are utter horseshit. I anticipate our peculiar brand of intelligence is an adaptation to our environment, which is staggeringly unlikely to exist in precisely this form anywhere else. Whether there are clouds of plasma capable of what we consider consciousness is a matter of doubt, although given the vast distances necessary to get the math for infinite alternate environments, on the timescales of human civilization from inception to destruction I doubt we'll ever be in contact with any of them, or that we would ever realize it if we had.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

You inserted the modifier "intelligent." Is that necessary to your argument?

I anticipate (not "believe"; anticipate) that there is matter capable of self-replication elsewhere in the universe. I also anticipate that bipedal, bilaterally symmetrical carbon-based humanoids that are universally described by 20th-21st century alien encounterists starting, by some enormous coincidence, exactly during the Jet Age are utter horseshit. I anticipate our peculiar brand of intelligence is an adaptation to our environment, which is staggeringly unlikely to exist in precisely this form anywhere else. Whether there are clouds of plasma capable of what we consider consciousness is a matter of doubt, although on the timescales of human civilization from inception to destruction I doubt we'll ever be contacted by any of them, or that we would ever realize it if we had.

translation: Every week i pray to the baby Jesus.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

translation: Every week i pray to the baby Jesus.

I think it's for the best that we all leave the "Translation:" posts to Thurgreed.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

I think it's for the best that we all leave the "Translation:" posts to Thurgreed.

ty says the economy needs to grow

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Yes necessarily, I think. But I'm wanting people to support the answer with an explanation of how the math that supports spontaneous generation could negate the plural. Not sure you are up to it, but have a shot.

Uh, you are aware that you're posting this to a bunch of lawyers? Speaking solely for myself, if I could have handled math involving letters, I'd have gone to medical school.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

someone who feels that life started on the Earth from spontaneous generation (or whatever the alternative to creationism is- these guys say they believe in evolution, but that is another question) said he does not believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe; aren't those inconsistent?

This person needs a less cerebral hobby. Navel gazing only works if you've got intellectual horsepower to burn.

George Bush seems to have done well with painting. Recommend that to him.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Current conventional wisdom appears to be only that we haven't found evidence of another ecosystem that would support human life yet.

That's conventional wisdom? We either have the evidence or we don't. (I guess someone could be misreading something, or have misplaced a file containing all the dispositive evidence... but those guys with telescopes are really fucking smart.)

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Back when news sites were first beginning to crowdsource and push their "most read" and "most shared" stuff, I was subjected to a "most shared" photo of a weightlifter as he crumpled with a dislocated knee. Years later the memory of it puts my stomach in knots. There is something about the human form -- it evokes a kind of revulsion to see it misshapen. Before the rational brain kicks back into gear, the twisted shape is momentarily not human. It's strangely more horrible than the sight of blood.

I was grabbing an hors d'oevre when it happened. Bad as Theismann?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Translation: I'm not aware of the math that support the postulate that god didn't create everything.

Are you looking for a fucking equation? If so you're on the wrong board (and you know it).

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I was grabbing an hors d'oevre when it happened. Bad as Theismann?

SKIP IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH

Worse. Theismann's was a clean break as a result of LT coming down on it. Ware's tibia and fibula just seemed to shatter, with breaks in multiple spots. His bones came way out of the skin and it seemed as if his skin was the only thing that kept the lower part of his leg and foot from being separated from the upper part altogether.

TM