Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

How about this request for sanctions? http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...ible-sanctions

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

How about this request for sanctions? http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...ible-sanctions

Right, he did that and he MIGHT face sanctions. If a lawyer shoots someone, that’s the only way to actually predict sanctions. I was sanctioned once in my career, and I’ve pushed envelopes from day 1.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

How about this request for sanctions? http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...ible-sanctions

The headline writer went out on a limb, no? "possible sanctions"? You think?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The headline writer went out on a limb, no? "possible sanctions"? You think?

Am I on ignore?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Am I on ignore?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

No, you.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Right, he did that and he MIGHT face sanctions. If a lawyer shoots someone, that’s the only way to actually predict sanctions. I was sanctioned once in my career, and I’ve pushed envelopes from day 1.

Ever get the disciplinary board complaint threat from opposing counsel? I got one of those once. I wish I'd kept it. Had words like "vehemently" and "strenuously" in it. Dude was batshit crazy.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

I had some knee arthritis flare up about a year ago. Ortho said I'd never run again, stick to bike and elliptical. Knee still hurt like fuck. Finally, I was looking at runkeeper and saw an old personal best in distance and I said "fuck it, I am going to improve that for once, even if I had to limp." I did and toward the end, it stopped hurting.

I have kept running and the more I run, the better it feels.

I think there's an element to what Sarno sais akin to what happens innately to the body when you have a brain injury or stroke. The body figures out other ways to get shit done and it does.

Running is not an option for me. The knees just won't have it, and the fact that I started weight training more heavily a couple years ago, which caused me to put on muscle weight, makes it even harder.

I really ought to swim. But the pool is always crowded, and often filled with old people. Maybe that's a sign...

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Are you still lawyering?

Still here, but not really. Definitely in the new year, there will be a new me.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

I had some knee arthritis flare up about a year ago. Ortho said I'd never run again, stick to bike and elliptical. Knee still hurt like fuck. Finally, I was looking at runkeeper and saw an old personal best in distance and I said "fuck it, I am going to improve that for once, even if I had to limp." I did and toward the end, it stopped hurting.

I have kept running and the more I run, the better it feels.

I think there's an element to what Sarno sais akin to what happens innately to the body when you have a brain injury or stroke. The body figures out other ways to get shit done and it does.

I have severe arthritis in both knees. Tore my acl in my left knee in the mid-90s and damaged cartilage and meniscus. Spent the next few decades going back and forth tearing meniscus and cartilage in each knee and having surgery (4 more times) as I kept playing basketball and overcompensating. Pushed through the pain.

Started HIIT and lifting way more seriously 4 years ago. Doctor told me absolutely no squatting since I basically have no cartilage or meniscus in either knee. Ignored it. Lost a ton of weight and built the muscles around both knees.

I used to feel pain constantly. Forget going up and down stairs easily or sitting for extended periods of time. After dropping weight and building those muscles, the pain has lessened considerably. The conventional wisdom even among the most sophisticated orthopedists is to never work a knee damaged like mine the way I have been. Before my latest surgery, the doctor told me he wouldn't do it. The pain I was having was keeping me from lifting the way I wanted no matter how much I tried to push through it. I told him I know my body and to just do it. He said okay, and after quite some time, the pain during workouts is mostly gone and I'm probably stronger than before the surgery.

That said, I had to give up basketball altogether. I've been pushing through pain for 25 years. But it's absolutely impossible now. I'm sure there are many examples of doctors being wrong about the message pain is meant to send. And the benefits from building the muscle around the damaged structure is discounted. But sometimes the structural damage is just too much (hi PLF!). That's where I am for lateral movement and extreme jumping (hell, even running). But for squatting and all crossfit-type movements, I'm good (hi Hank!).

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Rituals of childhood.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I have severe arthritis in both knees. Tore my acl in my left knee in the mid-90s and damaged cartilage and meniscus. Spent the next few decades going back and forth tearing meniscus and cartilage in each knee and having surgery (4 more times) as I kept playing basketball and overcompensating. Pushed through the pain.

Started HIIT and lifting way more seriously 4 years ago. Doctor told me absolutely no squatting since I basically have no cartilage or meniscus in either knee. Ignored it. Lost a ton of weight and built the muscles around both knees.

I used to feel pain constantly. Forget going up and down stairs easily or sitting for extended periods of time. After dropping weight and building those muscles, the pain has lessened considerably. The conventional wisdom even among the most sophisticated orthopedists is to never work a knee damaged like mine the way I have been. Before my latest surgery, the doctor told me he wouldn't do it. The pain I was having was keeping me from lifting the way I wanted no matter how much I tried to push through it. I told him I know my body and to just do it. He said okay, and after quite some time, the pain during workouts is mostly gone and I'm probably stronger than before the surgery.

That said, I had to give up basketball altogether. I've been pushing through pain for 25 years. But it's absolutely impossible now. I'm sure there are many examples of doctors being wrong about the message pain is meant to send. And the benefits from building the muscle around the damaged structure is discounted. But sometimes the structural damage is just too much (hi PLF!). That's where I am for lateral movement and extreme jumping (hell, even running). But for squatting and all crossfit-type movements, I'm good (hi Hank!).

TM

Hi!

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

And for Rule 11 sanctions.

Less back in SF

Eh, I don't usually ask for sanctions unless someone really pisses me off. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. Until they don't.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Ever get the disciplinary board complaint threat from opposing counsel? I got one of those once. I wish I'd kept it. Had words like "vehemently" and "strenuously" in it. Dude was batshit crazy.

In Illinois that type of threat will get you in trouble with the disciplinary commission. Talk about a self own.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I have severe arthritis in both knees. Tore my acl in my left knee in the mid-90s and damaged cartilage and meniscus. Spent the next few decades going back and forth tearing meniscus and cartilage in each knee and having surgery (4 more times) as I kept playing basketball and overcompensating. Pushed through the pain.

Started HIIT and lifting way more seriously 4 years ago. Doctor told me absolutely no squatting since I basically have no cartilage or meniscus in either knee. Ignored it. Lost a ton of weight and built the muscles around both knees.

I used to feel pain constantly. Forget going up and down stairs easily or sitting for extended periods of time. After dropping weight and building those muscles, the pain has lessened considerably. The conventional wisdom even among the most sophisticated orthopedists is to never work a knee damaged like mine the way I have been. Before my latest surgery, the doctor told me he wouldn't do it. The pain I was having was keeping me from lifting the way I wanted no matter how much I tried to push through it. I told him I know my body and to just do it. He said okay, and after quite some time, the pain during workouts is mostly gone and I'm probably stronger than before the surgery.

That said, I had to give up basketball altogether. I've been pushing through pain for 25 years. But it's absolutely impossible now. I'm sure there are many examples of doctors being wrong about the message pain is meant to send. And the benefits from building the muscle around the damaged structure is discounted. But sometimes the structural damage is just too much (hi PLF!). That's where I am for lateral movement and extreme jumping (hell, even running). But for squatting and all crossfit-type movements, I'm good (hi Hank!).

TM

I like HIIT (occasionally), but I found it amusing that the trainer at my last gym (a) ran the HIIT workouts, but didn't actually do them with us, and (b) went straight to the free weight section after class and did all of the big compound lifts.