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04-29-2015, 01:11 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: "I'll whip his ass!"
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch
Carter had a lot of faults, and I agree with those you point out (micro-manager, kind of a douche at times, etc.). But the credit you acknowledge is a lot of good work, that contradicts your sweeping statement that he was "an awful president."
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Not Bob basically dumped all over Carter's domestic policy, and gave him credit for his foreign policy.
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04-29-2015, 01:22 PM
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#2672
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you have a client who complains that it's too easy for patent trolls to leverage their portfolios, do you tell them they should license their own patents for free?
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I just meant that a guy who is so concerned about poor people could do something for the poor. Like when the Catholic Church says other people should help the poor.
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04-29-2015, 02:59 PM
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#2673
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
I just meant that a guy who is so concerned about poor people could do something for the poor. Like when the Catholic Church says other people should help the poor.
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Maybe he does a lot for the poor. But either way, what you said is an effort to change the subject from what he was talking about to him personally.
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04-29-2015, 03:04 PM
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Maybe he does a lot for the poor. But either way, what you said is an effort to change the subject from what he was talking about to him personally.
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You are right. That is what I did. I don't disagree with his sentiments otherwise, and no one else who posts here will either.
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04-29-2015, 03:27 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
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You are right. That is what I did. I don't disagree with his sentiments otherwise, and no one else who posts here will either.
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IIRC, his father was a successful plaintiff's lawyer, but I don't know anything about him.
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04-29-2015, 03:32 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
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IIRC, his father was a successful plaintiff's lawyer, but I don't know anything about him.
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His father, Peter Angelos, the owner, is someone about whom I have vague negative feelings, but they may just be the result of his attempts to protect his turf from the Nationals.
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04-29-2015, 03:36 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: "I'll whip his ass!"
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Not Bob basically dumped all over Carter's domestic policy, and gave him credit for his foreign policy.
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And summed that up as "awful president," which seemed wrong to me.
Plus, the whole fiscal prudence thing (which Reagan characterized as profligate deficit spending -- that was some funny shit, in the end, except the joke was on us).
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04-29-2015, 03:54 PM
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Re: "I'll whip his ass!"
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch
And summed that up as "awful president," which seemed wrong to me.
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Notbob 1976 was more excited about seeing Rocky than the election of Carter and the end of the Nixon era.
Feel for him.
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04-29-2015, 06:03 PM
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Re: "I'll whip his ass!"
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Notbob 1976 was more excited about seeing Rocky than the election of Carter and the end of the Nixon era.
Feel for him.
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Not Bob 1976 was thrilled with the election of The Man from Plains. It's what happened afterwards that soured me on him.
And, to Sidd, his foreign policy success were made up of (1) following up on what Nixon/Kissinger did re de jure recognition of the Peoples Republic as the legitimate government of China; (2) the Panama Canal treaty (he reopened negotiations that had stalled since the late 1960s), and (3) not fucking it up when a legitimate hero of peace (Anwar Sadat) extended an olive branch by announcing that he would fly to Jerusalem to discuss peace. These successes don't change the fact that the Misery Index (inflation plus unemployment) reached unprecedented levels on his watch, and his signature domestic achievements (deregulation of the trucking and airline industries) were, well, Republican in nature.
Plus he was a moralizing, two-faced, humorless drudge who somehow managed to destroy the national Democratic party leadership (look at who lost their seats in 1978 and 1980) and thereby opened the door to the Reagan Revolution.
On the plus side, he did give us Billy Beer and invited Willie Nelson to play at the White House.
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04-29-2015, 06:19 PM
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I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
Lest I be accused of being a wee bit over the top about my disdain for the Carter Administration, I will note for the record that Fleetwood Mac's Rumors was released in 1977 shortly after Jimmy's inauguration, and that is a fucking awesome (albeit somewhat overplayed) album.
And Jimmy Buffett's Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes was also released in early 1977. While Margaritaville sucks up all the oxygen (for better or worse) regarding that album, surely everyone here will mainly agree that I am mostly correct when I say that the title track is most excellent. Good times and riches, and son of a bitches, indeed.
Carry on.
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04-29-2015, 07:04 PM
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Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
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Originally Posted by Not Bob
Lest I be accused of being a wee bit over the top about my disdain for the Carter Administration, I will note for the record that Fleetwood Mac's Rumors was released in 1977 shortly after Jimmy's inauguration, and that is a fucking awesome (albeit somewhat overplayed) album.
And Jimmy Buffett's Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes was also released in early 1977. While Margaritaville sucks up all the oxygen (for better or worse) regarding that album, surely everyone here will mainly agree that I am mostly correct when I say that the title track is most excellent. Good times and riches, and son of a bitches, indeed.
Carry on.
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That is so very Not Bob. I suppose I can't tie Carter to UK releases, but at home, and better:

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04-29-2015, 07:12 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
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Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
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So you're giving Gerald Ford credit for The Ramones? Roxy's Country Life credit to Nixon?
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04-29-2015, 08:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
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Originally Posted by Not Bob
Lest I be accused of being a wee bit over the top about my disdain for the Carter Administration, I will note for the record that Fleetwood Mac's Rumors was released in 1977 shortly after Jimmy's inauguration, and that is a fucking awesome (albeit somewhat overplayed) album.
And Jimmy Buffett's Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes was also released in early 1977. While Margaritaville sucks up all the oxygen (for better or worse) regarding that album, surely everyone here will mainly agree that I am mostly correct when I say that the title track is most excellent. Good times and riches, and son of a bitches, indeed.
Carry on.
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Don't think for a second that I don't see you over here, prattling on about your dusty 70s AOR.
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04-29-2015, 09:32 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
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04-29-2015, 09:33 PM
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Re: I dream about Paris when I'm high on red wine,
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower
Don't think for a second that I don't see you over here, prattling on about your dusty 70s AOR.
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what is your fave Jimmy buffet LP?
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