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		|  03-29-2005, 09:40 PM | #1561 |  
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		| Originally posted by Replaced_Texan So there's a footnote to the premise that rape is never, ever, ever ok?
 |   Are we impregnating or not?  I mean, if we can sow our seed (literally) in the country we have taken over . . . |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:41 PM | #1562 |  
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		| Originally posted by Replaced_Texan So there's a footnote to the premise that rape is never, ever, ever ok?
 |  I dont' really see a difference between rape and beating someone senseless.  They are both incredibly heinous actions. |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:42 PM | #1563 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb Are we impregnating or not?  I mean, if we can sow our seed (literally) in the country we have taken over . . .
 |  Who are we, mere women, to suggest that time-honored traditions such as rape and pillage should be abandoned?
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:42 PM | #1564 |  
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		| Originally posted by Gattigap Club:  War sucks.  I'm torn, but I think the end justifies the means in many cases.  Assuming that we know, really know, that they're combatants, go ahead and beat their children.  After all, they might know something.
 
 |  No, you misunderstand me.  Innocents should never be beaten. |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:44 PM | #1565 |  
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		| Originally posted by Replaced_Texan Who are we, mere women, to suggest that time-honored traditions such as rape and pillage should be abandoned?
 |  If a women was known to have killed and had information that would prevent further killing, is raping her not a justifiable way to get the information?  I don't see this moral delema (sp?) differently than if we substitute "beating" for "raping". |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:44 PM | #1566 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub No, you misunderstand me.  Innocents should never be beaten.
 |   I know daddy is fighting with the insurgents, but I don't want to give information on him because, well, he's my daddy.  
 
Am I raped or no?  
 
And I'm still curious about your own sweet ass.
 
And, OK, so, if the insurgents capture an American soldier and he won't give up all the info he knows, it's OK to sodomize him?  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:47 PM | #1567 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb I know daddy is fighting with the insurgents, but I don't want to give information on him because, well, he's my daddy.
 
 Am I raped or no?
 
 And I'm still curious about your own sweet ass.
 |  No, assumng you are innocent.
 
I bet you are . . . . |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:48 PM | #1568 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub No, assumng you are innocent.
 
 I bet you are . . . .
 |   answer the american soldier question, and how am I innocent if i have info that I won't give up?
 
and can we smash the testicles so as to cause immense pain and, as a side effect, prevent further breeding? |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:48 PM | #1569 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub No, assumng you are innocent.
 
 I bet you are . . . .
 |  Uh, who, exactly, is determining innocence and non-innocence?
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:51 PM | #1570 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub If a women was known to have killed and had information that would prevent further killing, is raping her not a justifiable way to get the information?  I don't see this moral delema (sp?) differently than if we substitute "beating" for "raping".
 |  BTW, if you're giving out choices, put me down for "beating."
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:54 PM | #1571 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb answer the american soldier question, and how am I innocent if i have info that I won't give up?
 
 and can we smash the testicles so as to cause immense pain and, as a side effect, prevent further breeding?
 |  The rules would apply equally to all sides.
 
Listen, I said I'm torn.  But I find it hard to really draw lines when you are in an absolutely chaotic and possible immoral state of war, where the winner takes all.  
 
I also think that there are utility arguments for the no-holds barred approach, assuming the techniques are actually effective - I've heard different accounts as to that. |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:55 PM | #1572 |  
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		| Originally posted by Replaced_Texan Uh, who, exactly, is determining innocence and non-innocence?
 |  This is a hypothetical exercise.  Don't bring practicality into it. |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:57 PM | #1573 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub This is a hypothetical exercise.  Don't bring practicality into it.
 |   So you are backing off?  I look forward to films of American soldiers being sodomized.  
 
I don't think it's fair of you to vent your self-hatred -- at what is really a natural curiousity you are feeling -- on those poor soldiers, though.  I'm sure you would have no trouble picking up some toys to try things out in the privacy of your own home.  Pay cash. |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 09:59 PM | #1574 |  
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		| Originally posted by ltl/fb So you are backing off?  I look forward to films of American soldiers being sodomized.
 
 I don't think it's fair of you to vent your self-hatred -- at what is really a natural curiousity you are feeling -- on those poor soldiers, though.  I'm sure you would have no trouble picking up some toys to try things out in the privacy of your own home.  Pay cash.
 |  Backing off what. 
 
And if you meant the above as some sort of dig, you should take your homophobia back to where you found it. |  
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		|  03-29-2005, 10:01 PM | #1575 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub Backing off what.
 
 And if you meant the above as some sort of dig, you should take your homophobia back to where you found it.
 |   You are proposing a rule.  You can't ignore the practicalities.  By saying "this is just theoretical" you are basically saying "OK, in real life, I'm full of shit and my theory sucks."  That would be "backing off."
 
I would give you the ass toys, if I didn't think that was gross.  I think it's good to explore.
 
ETA my ass toys.  I think it would be gross to pass along used ass toys.  
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