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		|  04-25-2013, 05:37 PM | #2101 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  That line down the exact center of the key is too thin and too straight to be valid. My guess is that however the data was entered (by sensor or by data entry by a human) there was a tendency to report a shot from that centerline (i.e. X-axis value of precisely zero) as opposed to slightly from the left or right.  Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise. |  Was thinking the same thing, but appreciate the Star Wars reference. |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  That line down the exact center of the key is too thin and too straight to be valid. My guess is that however the data was entered (by sensor or by data entry by a human) there was a tendency to report a shot from that centerline (i.e. X-axis value of precisely zero) as opposed to slightly from the left or right.  Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise. |  Yeah, or it could be the cumulative effect of the shots made by free throw shooters getting their own rebound off a missed free throw.
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		|  04-25-2013, 06:42 PM | #2103 |  
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					Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint  Yeah, or it could be the cumulative effect of the shots made by free throw shooters getting their own rebound off a missed free throw. |  Bzzt! The artifact can be seen all the way past the 3-point line -- how many free throw shooters run backward that far? I still think the best explanation is that some shots made from near  the centerline are being marked as exactly  on the centerline, due to some kind of perceptual bias by the observers.
 
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  Bzzt! The artifact can be seen all the way past the 3-point line -- how many free throw shooters run backward that far? I still think the best explanation is that some shots made from near the centerline are being marked as exactly on the centerline, due to some kind of perceptual bias by the observers.
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 so did Te'o slip because of size, or apparent stupidness? 
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  That line down the exact center of the key is too thin and too straight to be valid. My guess is that however the data was entered (by sensor or by data entry by a human) there was a tendency to report a shot from that centerline (i.e. X-axis value of precisely zero) as opposed to slightly from the left or right.  Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise. |  The bias seems to apply only to made shots, not misses, as the line seems particularly red.  Explain, Obi-Wan. And it's not because sand people walk in single file.
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  so did Te'o slip because of size, or apparent stupidness? |  Because Alabama hung 28 points on his defense in the first half.
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  Because Alabama hung 28 points on his defense in the first half. |  by that logic only SEC defensive players would get drafted; Alabama would have killed any non-SEC team.
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  The bias seems to apply only to made shots, not misses, as the line seems particularly red.  Explain, Obi-Wan. And it's not because sand people walk in single file. |  plus when you scale the graph up to size "the line" might be a few feet thick.
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  so did Te'o slip because of size, or apparent stupidness? |  Speed, probably.   I actually think he'll be a fine LB.  He won't be a superstar, but he'll be pretty good.  Lance Briggs (who is almost the exact same size as Teo) only ran a 4.75 40 and he is a near-elite LB.
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		|  04-26-2013, 01:31 PM | #2113 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  plus when you scale the graph up to size "the line" might be a few feet thick. |  Despite not caring, I zoomed in and counted 36 sample points in the diameter of the key circle. (Feel free to disagree.) In the NBA that circle has a radius of 6' (r=72"; d=144"). Each sample point is therefore roughly four inches wide. |  
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		|  04-26-2013, 02:00 PM | #2114 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  The bias seems to apply only to made shots, not misses, as the line seems particularly red.  Explain, Obi-Wan. And it's not because sand people walk in single file. |  If the observations are being logged by people (rather than by sensors), perhaps made shots are disproportionally perceived to be from the center of the court because the ball drops straight. A missed FG bounces off the rim and any angle of the rebound will subtly cue the observer to record the the shot was taken from a slight angle.
 
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  If the observations are being logged by people (rather than by sensors), perhaps made shots are disproportionally perceived to be from the center of the court because the ball drops straight. A missed FG bounces off the rim and any angle of the rebound will subtly cue the observer to record the the shot was taken from a slight angle.
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