Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Because he had a bag of weed in his car or his pocket that he didn't want the cop to see?


Because he was scared? (Not to suggest that this cop was anyone for him to be scared of, of course.)

I can think of any number of other reasons. I can even think of a few hypotheticals that would legally justify shooting a fleeing suspect (running towards a gun, running to attack someone), but the video confirms that none of those were actually happening here.

I saw something this morning about him having some reason to fear going to jail - unpaid tickets or something maybe - and thus having a reason to run.

As usual, the video leaves some important questions, like what the object that drops at the cops feet was, how that got where they were (didn't look like a roadside), and how much of a struggle happened before the video. Not sure any of that really matters in the end, though.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Agree completely. That incident and this graphic got me to wondering whether there is some sort of behavioral explanation for the way police officers act -- you have an initial stop and scuffle and the officers adrenaline is running high, and when the other guy starts running, there's some sort of fight instinct that can't be turned off easily. Officers learn to say the right things about what they thought (I saw a gun, I feared for my life) after the fact, but that is just post hoc dressing for a series of decisions that aren't rational at all.

I think it's a combination of power and an unwillingness to suffer any type of disrespect by people you think are lesser than you. Throw in the fact that you know every single police shooting will be found justified, and you get police violence.

I feel the disrespect and swollen sense of authority almost every time I have interacted with a police officer (when they've initiated). They expect their orders to be followed. Period. As soon as they sense that you are pissed off or haven't acted on an order quickly enough, they are about 3 or 4 words from initiating violence.

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

I saw something this morning about him having some reason to fear going to jail - unpaid tickets or something maybe - and thus having a reason to run.

As usual, the video leaves some important questions, like what the object that drops at the cops feet was, how that got where they were (didn't look like a roadside), and how much of a struggle happened before the video. Not sure any of that really matters in the end, though.

News last night said he had some unpaid alimony issues.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I think it's a combination of power and an unwillingness to suffer any type of disrespect by people you think are lesser than you. Throw in the fact that you know every single police shooting will be found justified, and you get police violence.

I feel the disrespect and swollen sense of authority almost every time I have interacted with a police officer (when they've initiated). They expect their orders to be followed. Period. As soon as they sense that you are pissed off or haven't acted on an order quickly enough, they are about 3 or 4 words from initiating violence.

TM

Hasn't this been encouraged by a lot of police departments at a policy level? I understand that the broken windows approach in general involves establishing authority and insisting that perps - ah, citizens - be submissive. Officers are trained to be this way.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

IMF: Whoops!

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Hasn't this been encouraged by a lot of police departments at a policy level? I understand that the broken windows approach in general involves establishing authority and insisting that perps - ah, citizens - be submissive. Officers are trained to be this way.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Pro tip: Godwin's law covers Neville Chamberlain references.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Joke-stealer?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/10/ar...=1419773522000

TM

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I think it's a combination of power and an unwillingness to suffer any type of disrespect by people you think are lesser than you. Throw in the fact that you know every single police shooting will be found justified, and you get police violence.

I feel the disrespect and swollen sense of authority almost every time I have interacted with a police officer (when they've initiated). They expect their orders to be followed. Period. As soon as they sense that you are pissed off or haven't acted on an order quickly enough, they are about 3 or 4 words from initiating violence.

TM

"Some police think, they have the authority to kill a minority." That was 27 years ago.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I feel the disrespect and swollen sense of authority almost every time I have interacted with a police officer (when they've initiated). They expect their orders to be followed. Period. As soon as they sense that you are pissed off or haven't acted on an order quickly enough or haven't anticipated the order they might or might not be about to give, they are about 0 or 1 words from initiating violence.

Fixed that for you. And I suspect your interactions have been more unpleasant than mine.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Fixed that for you. And I suspect your interactions have been more unpleasant than mine.

Thanks.

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Black men being killed is the new Girls Gone Wild.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Sacramento stepping up to combat lynching.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Sacramento stepping up to combat lynching.

Can we talk about something less depressing than America and race?

Like maybe zoning.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Black men being killed is the new Girls Gone Wild.

That is nonsense.

I wrote a much longer post about why it was nonsense, but it felt like I was trying to prove water is wet.