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[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

I have no idea what this means.

Tire Pressure Monitors Systems are part of the wheels. There is one for each of the wheels. The wheels are the metal things. When you change the tires (the rubber things) you don't need to change the TPMS.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Honda had a proprietary wheel/tire system that they were sued over it was so bad. Generally you can replace runflats with regular tires no problem.

Unless it's a lease. Generally, if they lease it to you with runflats you have to give it back with runflats. If you take the car home from the dealer first day of the lease, take the runflats off and put on regular tires, then put the runflats back on day 1095 when you bring it back no problem.

However, a lot of big chain tire places (Costco, Sam's ) won't put regular tires on a car that came with runflats unless you show them a spare tire and jack.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Helpful!

No, seriously, this was helpful.

Nothing says "helpful" like including the "l".

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

On the topic of Minis I defer to Mini owners. I believe, however, that some runflat/TPMS systems require you to purchase new rims if you downgrade from runflats to regular tires. When last shopping for Odyssey minivans, this fact, combined with the fact that the special TPMS rubber can only be installed with specialized tire mounting hardware at a Honda dealership and certain select Michelin retailers, made the decision not to get the ultralux trim package, which already carried Honda's $5,500 premium sticker, oh so easy.

WTTW: Ask the sales guy whether you can reshoe with regular tires; confirm it; don't assume anything.

When we were purchasing my Honda Odyssey (how I yearn for my old Lexus, and envy those of you debating Fiat vs. Mini, but I need a vehicle that can comfortably accomodate 3 in car seats in a configuration where no one can touch someone else, with decent cargo space and room to transport the Chick pets, since Mr. Chick beat me on the Acadia), the legendarily craptastic Honda run-flats, which came with the Touring model, would have caused me to go down a trim level as well simply to avoid them, but fortunately, they had been eliminated from the redesign I was purchasing. I don't know if they are still a part of the Touring Elite package, but that would have been a dealbreaker for me as well.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Tire Pressure Monitors Systems are part of the wheels. There is one for each of the wheels. The wheels are the metal things. When you change the tires (the rubber things) you don't need to change the TPMS.

Thank you. This was also actually helpful.

I changed my own tire last fall. I can manage that. That is about it.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

When we were purchasing my Honda Odyssey (how I yearn for my old Lexus, and envy those of you debating Fiat vs. Mini, but I need a vehicle that can comfortably accomodate 3 in car seats in a configuration where no one can touch someone else, with decent cargo space and room to transport the Chick pets, since Mr. Chick beat me on the Acadia), the legendarily craptastic Honda run-flats, which came with the Touring model, would have caused me to go down a trim level as well simply to avoid them, but fortunately, they had been eliminated from the redesign I was purchasing. I don't know if they are still a part of the Touring Elite package, but that would have been a dealbreaker for me as well.

Honda has a real habit of absolutely fucking you if you go from second-best trim to best. The price premium for rear backup sensors and some miscellaneous other convenience tech is outrageous. That's why I know a billion people who got the EX-L and no one (except you) who sprang for the Touring. What galls me is that, at least until recently, Honda considered a trip computer to be a luxury item. I'd love to know my mileage per gallon, but not so much I'd spend $5,500 for the answer.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

You lost me at the part where you went shopping for a minivan.

There's nothing so pitiful as a man whose last vestige of coolness is the fact he doesn't own a minivan. As far as I'm concerned it's merely evidence that you cannot impregnate your woman often enough. My family and I will be giving you the finger as we pass you in the HOV lane in our magic carpet, laughing at the knowledge that when you finally get to your destination, you'll be opening your doors manually, like a sucker.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

There's nothing so pitiful as a man whose last vestige of coolness is the fact he doesn't own a minivan. As far as I'm concerned it's merely evidence that you cannot impregnate your woman often enough.

Aren't you closing in on Duggar territory?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

I'd love to know my mileage per gallon, but not so much I'd spend $5,500 for the answer.

fuelly.com

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Honda has a real habit of absolutely fucking you if you go from second-best trim to best. The price premium for rear backup sensors and some miscellaneous other convenience tech is outrageous. That's why I know a billion people who got the EX-L and no one (except you) who sprang for the Touring. What galls me is that, at least until recently, Honda considered a trip computer to be a luxury item. I'd love to know my mileage per gallon, but not so much I'd spend $5,500 for the answer.

it's amazing this is a board populated by AMERICAN lawyers. I would not know shit about a fucking Honda if it hit me one day.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Honda has a real habit of absolutely fucking you if you go from second-best trim to best. The price premium for rear backup sensors and some miscellaneous other convenience tech is outrageous. That's why I know a billion people who got the EX-L and no one (except you) who sprang for the Touring. What galls me is that, at least until recently, Honda considered a trip computer to be a luxury item. I'd love to know my mileage per gallon, but not so much I'd spend $5,500 for the answer.

Hyundai. Honda quality at old-school Honda price points.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

it's amazing this is a board populated by AMERICAN lawyers. I would not know shit about a fucking Honda if it hit me one day.

Odd. Honda has exported more cars in the last few years than Chrysler or Ford.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Any predictions on the score of the Spain-Tahiti Confederations Cup match? I will go out on a limb and say 13-0.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Any predictions on the score of the Spain-Tahiti Confederations Cup match? I will go out on a limb and say 13-0.

I just came on to ask about this game.

Italy Japan was a lot more fun than I thought it would be. I'm not expecting anything remotely similar today.

It was kind of them to pull Xavi, Casillas, and Cesc Fabergas, but I'm not sure that David Villa and Juan Mata helps Tahiti any. Nor Fernando Torres.

That said, the Tahitians look pretty elated to be there.

ETA: the shell necklace exchange was a nice touch.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Honda has a real habit of absolutely fucking you if you go from second-best trim to best. The price premium for rear backup sensors and some miscellaneous other convenience tech is outrageous. That's why I know a billion people who got the EX-L and no one (except you) who sprang for the Touring. What galls me is that, at least until recently, Honda considered a trip computer to be a luxury item. I'd love to know my mileage per gallon, but not so much I'd spend $5,500 for the answer.

Since 2011, the Touring is the new E-XL and is probably half the Oddys I see in my neighborhood. Have you seen the pricing on the Touring Elite? I was stepping down and wanted to keep the features to which I was accusomed (I still miss my rain sensing wipers, as the Oddyssey has only 3 speeds, 2 of which are too annoyingly fast and the other too intermittent), but the Touring Elite MSRP was more than I had paid for the Lexus for features like blind spot alert, HID headlamps, and the super duper rear entertainment system. I also miss the smooth silent ride of my former vehicle, now I have all these annoying rattles that I can't quite pin down, as there's too much random kid crap floating around.