Stuck on Repeats

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

To clarify my question -- any organized kids' sports, where parents are actually present, where they are not a problem?

Or do you think soccer parents are worse than baseball or football parents?

I like to scream "run 'em through" at my kids' fencing matches. People look at me funny.

But you should see the parents at my daughter's robotic meets!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

To clarify my question -- any organized kids' sports, where parents are actually present, where they are not a problem?

Or do you think soccer parents are worse than baseball or football parents?

I generally wish parents would shut up and let the kids play, which goes for coaches too. Baseball is the worst this way, because the coaches can tell the kids what to do before and after each pitch. And they do it during the action too. If a kid is playing soccer, she generally is paying too much attention to the game to listen to someone yelling on the sidelines, not that this stops the adults.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Really excited to win a medal:



TM

Apropos of which, Iceland seems to be an odd place.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You'd think I'd be a lunatic. But I've never complained to a ref once. And have only cheered for a good play (on either team). I am shocked by how the parents act. Parents on my kid's team (who are particularly bad, but maybe it's just because I'm surrounded by them).

The last game, one girl on the opposite team fell as she and another girl were going for the ball. First time in the game her daughter fell at all. Complete accident. She was screaming, "That's what she does! That's what she does! Ref, why don't you blow your fucking whistle?!"

Fucking suburbs are rough, dude.

U-10 and U-8 games here are sometimes center reffed by youth (14-17), with one of the league commissioners nearby. My instructions as a coach are to admonish (on first offense) and eject any of my team's parents that even ADDRESS the ref while he or she is on the field. In the years I coached, I never had to go beyond an admonition. But it's mostly AYSO out here (where nobody gets paid for anything) so a positive experience for the volunteers is considered as much a part of the game as the experience of the kids.

I've seen other teams' parents get ejected. The feeling of relief is always palpable on both sides of the field.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

U-10 and U-8 games here are sometimes center reffed by youth (14-17), with one of the league commissioners nearby. My instructions as a coach are to admonish (on first offense) and eject any of my team's parents that even ADDRESS the ref while he or she is on the field. In the years I coached, I never had to go beyond an admonition. But it's mostly AYSO out here (where nobody gets paid for anything) so a positive experience for the volunteers is considered as much a part of the game as the experience of the kids.

I've seen other teams' parents get ejected. The feeling of relief is always palpable on both sides of the field.

But you probably Tasered and cavity-searched a guy to get street cred. Not everyone has that going for them.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

But it's mostly AYSO out here (where nobody gets paid for anything).

chinaskis don't do nuthin for nuthin

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

To clarify my question -- any organized kids' sports, where parents are actually present, where they are not a problem?

To clarify my answer: No.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

the ignorance of the rules, or the wide spread fact of the ignorance, makes soccer parents special.

Pussy sports such as soccer or basketball draw a greater proportion of yuppie scum than sports that have contact as part of the game. The elitist yuppie scum scorn football and hockey and gravitate toward other sports.

And don't talk to me about "contact" in soccer and basketball. Yes, I grew up in Brooklyn and certainly know how to put a body on someone going for a layup. But in the 'burbs, such contact is abhorred.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Baseball is the worst this way, because the coaches can tell the kids what to do before and after each pitch.

Also, generally the parents who coach baseball have little to know knowledge or skill. If my son had one coach who played high school baseball that would have been a lot. The coaches he had gave such amazing instructions like "Swing at strikes."

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Also, generally the parents who coach baseball have little to know knowledge or skill. If my son had one coach who played high school baseball that would have been a lot. The coaches he had gave such amazing instructions like "Swing at strikes."

And oh my god, my kid did a summer swim team one year and my wife and I had a mutual suicide pact if he would have wanted to continue in the fall and winter. You sit there for 11 hours while your kid swims for fifteen seconds. Parents scream like their kid is the 3rd horse to make the pick 3 at Aqueduct.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Pussy sports such as soccer or basketball draw a greater proportion of yuppie scum than sports that have contact as part of the game.

And don't talk to me about "contact" in soccer and basketball. Yes, I grew up in Brooklyn and certainly know how to put a body on someone going for a layup. But in the 'burbs, such contact is abhorred.

1- i need Bk neighborhood advice for where my kid should live. PM me?

2- Detroit calls itself "hockey town, so I know a ton of hockey parents. They are by definition yuppie scum. It costs a ton to have your kids get ice time 3 or 4 times a week.

3- Come watch a Gus Macker 3 on 3 ( macker.com ) with my son's friends playing against a team from Detroit. As much contact as you'll want to be a part of, although I admit hockey has more contact.

4- From what I've heard over the years hockey parents can be huge assholes, but there is a wall keeping them separate from the refs.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Also, generally the parents who coach baseball have little to know knowledge or skill. If my son had one coach who played high school baseball that would have been a lot. The coaches he had gave such amazing instructions like "Swing at strikes."

maybe, but they know the basic rules, usually.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Pussy sports such as soccer or basketball draw a greater proportion of yuppie scum than sports that have contact as part of the game. The elitist yuppie scum scorn football and hockey and gravitate toward other sports.

And don't talk to me about "contact" in soccer and basketball. Yes, I grew up in Brooklyn and certainly know how to put a body on someone going for a layup. But in the 'burbs, such contact is abhorred.

Is baseball a contact sport or a sport that the yuppies play? On your planet, I mean.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

1- i need Bk neighborhood advice for where my kid should live. PM me?

Sorry, but the hipsters have taken over, and I have lost my green card. My POV is historical only. But PM me a location and I will tell you what I know.

2- Detroit calls itself "hockey town, so I know a ton of hockey parents. They are by definition yuppie scum. It costs a ton to have your kids get ice time 3 or 4 times a week.

Varies by neighborhood. My son has played with predominantly blue collar kids, though occasionally he did clinics in CT. My car was the only nonlandcruiser in the parking lot.

3- Come watch a Gus Macker 3 on 3 ( macker.com ) with my son's friends playing against a team from Detroit. As much contact as you'll want to be a part of, although I admit hockey has more contact.

Not the burbs.

4- From what I've heard over the years hockey parents can be huge assholes, but there is a wall keeping them separate from the refs.

Voices carry.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Is baseball a contact sport or a sport that the yuppies play? On your planet, I mean.

No. Baseball is a blue collar sport, generally.