Objectively intelligent.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Partisan bullshit. The story is a pretty tragic series of ignoring shit and horrible co-incidi, but at lower levels. I have seen nothing about Snyder himself (but I don't have access to the emails). Dunno what they will charge him with.

Almost think this is a desperate attempt to overcome the negative feelings the gov, and by extension all D's, are attracting from people of all political beliefs relative to her covid response.

Looks that way.

1. It's state level (B Team);
2. It's a new version of previously dismissed charges as to several Defendants;
3. Facts are really old -- significantly decreases dependability/veracity of witnesses

But one question I have is, why did they dismiss without prejudice and refile rather than just issue superseding indictments? That makes the whole thing look pretty flawed. I don't know about you, but if I'm on a jury and someone tells me the prosecution previously dropped the charges, I'm thinking there's something lacking here, and the defendants charged twice are being unfairly forced to pay for counsel and go through the process twice.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

More like a little of both

The author stumbles into a significant point regarding Trump's ardent followers. He describes some of the rioters as "failsons" -- kids of some privilege who are aimless. Now, of course most of those cranks in the Capitol were not of privilege. But they were low rent variants of "superfluous men," a synonym for failson coined in 19th century Russian literature. Superfluous men are again typically quite comfortable, but that's not their essential defining trait. The most salient personality feature of them is a rootlessness, a lack of higher meaning in their lives. They're devoted to nothing, really. But they're not nihilists. Their lack of goals or definition is not a choice but something thrust upon them by circumstance.

I think at the core of Trumpism might be a giant failson complex. From the factory worker whose job is gone to the middle manager or even professional whose job seems meaningless, the people who were at that rally were clearly looking for some form of community, for something to belong to. (Why else be in a shitshow like that?)

I might've been misapprehending Trumpists as primarily economically fixated, and people like Adder might've been doing the same in assessing they were animated most significantly by racism. Those things are clearly part of the appeal. But interwoven with them is a definite desire to bond, to have a community, to feel like part of something bigger, with a purpose.

They might to a great extent be people who simply can't deal with the realities of 21st century life -- the ruthless rationality and logic our commoditized and digitized world has compelled us to apply in order to survive. They might not be equipped to deal with the fact that life doesn't really have any meaning. They might need structures, myths. They might need something akin to religion, or a crusade in which to envelope themselves. The loss of the their savior is the loss of a compass. They can't bear it. They'll do anything, even resort to violence, to retain the fleeting sense of meaning they derived from following this demagogue.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Looks that way.

1. It's state level (B Team);
2. It's a new version of previously dismissed charges as to several Defendants;
3. Facts are really old -- significantly decreases dependability/veracity of witnesses

But one question I have is, why did they dismiss without prejudice and refile rather than just issue superseding indictments? That makes the whole thing look pretty flawed. I don't know about you, but if I'm on a jury and someone tells me the prosecution previously dropped the charges, I'm thinking there's something lacking here, and the defendants charged twice are being unfairly forced to pay for counsel and go through the process twice.

What are the charges against him? The article I saw did not say.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The author stumbles into a significant point regarding Trump's ardent followers. He describes some of the rioters as "failsons" -- kids of some privilege who are aimless. Now, of course most of those cranks in the Capitol were not of privilege. But they were low rent variants of "superfluous men," a synonym for failson coined in 19th century Russian literature. Superfluous men are again typically quite comfortable, but that's not their essential defining trait. The most salient personality feature of them is a rootlessness, a lack of higher meaning in their lives. They're devoted to nothing, really. But they're not nihilists. Their lack of goals or definition is not a choice but something thrust upon them by circumstance.

I think at the core of Trumpism might be a giant failson complex. From the factory worker whose job is gone to the middle manager or even professional whose job seems meaningless, the people who were at that rally were clearly looking for some form of community, for something to belong to. (Why else be in a shitshow like that?)

I might've been misapprehending Trumpists as primarily economically fixated, and people like Adder might've been doing the same in assessing they were animated most significantly by racism. Those things are clearly part of the appeal. But interwoven with them is a definite desire to bond, to have a community, to feel like part of something bigger, with a purpose.

They might to a great extent be people who simply can't deal with the realities of 21st century life -- the ruthless rationality and logic our commoditized and digitized world has compelled us to apply in order to survive. They might not be equipped to deal with the fact that life doesn't really have any meaning. They might need structures, myths. They might need something akin to religion, or a crusade in which to envelope themselves. The loss of the their savior is the loss of a compass. They can't bear it. They'll do anything, even resort to violence, to retain the fleeting sense of meaning they derived from following this demagogue.

one of them won an Olympic Gold Medal.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

What are the charges against him? The article I saw did not say.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...is/6644125002/ Announced tomorrow.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...is/6644125002/ Announced tomorrow.

"It was not clear Tuesday the nature of any potential charges against Snyder, former health department director Nick Lyon, former top Snyder aide Richard Baird and others who worked for the governor. "

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

"It was not clear Tuesday the nature of any potential charges against Snyder, former health department director Nick Lyon, former top Snyder aide Richard Baird and others who worked for the governor. "

Charges announced tomorrow!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Charges announced tomorrow!

Is this the guy who was screaming "you're treating me like I'm black" when he got arrested?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

"It was not clear Tuesday the nature of any potential charges against Snyder, former health department director Nick Lyon, former top Snyder aide Richard Baird and others who worked for the governor. "

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...risis-n1253966 Willful neglect of duty.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

This is not a threat to good taste. It is merely an assault on good taste.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I've heard Coltrane is a hell of an attorney, and he's coming here for lunch to discuss helping me challenge the election. But as fat as he's gotten I want to make sure there is enough food.

ZING!

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I've heard Coltrane is a hell of an attorney, and he's coming here for lunch to discuss to helping me challenge the election. But as fat as he's gotten I want to make sure there is enough food.

ZING!

*burp*

The truth hurts.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

The truth hurts.

For you it does.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

For you it does.

Funny, all that hurt coming from comfort food. Ironic?