Pepper sprayed for public safety.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

so the boxes are not a free choice? budgetary limits?

You'd have to ask Penske -- I really don't know why he does it.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

OK, I call bullshit. No one *likes* to drink rally bad wine.

your level of wine, does "Estate Bottled" require the cardboard be made from trees grown on site?

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone

A nice little note from the new chair of the Washington County Republican County. This is the county that Intel, Nike, ESI, Columbia, Techtronix, and Mentor Graphics, among others, call home. In other words, the kind of folks who might be receptive to a moderate, pro-business Republican message. This ain't that message:

Washington County Republican Party


Liberalism is an atheistic cult. The DNC is actually communism wrapped in their liberal religion to mask the fact they are attempting to create their utopian enslavement. The first thing Communists want is to take God out of all government institutions such as schools and government to be replaced with secularism. Secularism is an atheistic belief which replaces the Bible’s Ten Commandments and teachings of honesty and integrity with moral relativism. One can lie, cheat and steal if the end justifies the means. This gives the government officials, elitists and leaders free reign to make up morality as they see fit and declare what is right and wrong. Rather than having personal morality or responsibility they believe in a social morality allowing them to live an immoral personal life and having it absolved through social morality.

The Democrats have replaced personal morality with social morality which means to be a good person you no longer have to worry about your personal failings but your societal failings. This allows you to put the social good in front of your personal responsibilities to make yourself a good person. You can be a drug addict, leave your family in shambles or steal from your boss but, as long as you drive a Prius and are concerned about polar bears, you are a good person. You can live any immoral lifestyle you want and, as long as you believe in Social Justice, you are a saintly person in their belief system. This is where the cult lifestyle comes in since you have to take God out of your life and replace it with social morality to work yourself into goodness. Liberals earn their way into their heaven of a perfect liberal.

Liberalism is a Godless religion whose High Priests are scientists. Since they don’t believe in God or a superior being the only people who can explain; existence or truth are scientists. They won’t accept the “myth” of creation so they have to have the scientist explain our coming to being through evolution. According to evolution the top of the evolutionary chain is man which means that the only thing superior to man is a more intelligent man or a group of men together like government or science. That should disprove their theory right there.

The average liberal will accept anything a scientist says since they think the scientific method is based on facts and infallible. When a scientist declares something true by consensus such as evolution or Global Warming they accept it as absolute truth. Never mind science has been wrong about similar theories such as acid rain, DDT, Spotted Owls or AIDs affecting heterosexuals they accept it without question. The liberal will accept it completely without hesitation and when someone dares to question the findings of these scientists, that person is attacked and declared a heretic or ignorant of science. The truth is science has been corrupted by politics and now is closed to competitive theories and will destroy careers of non believers.

Many liberal will brag about how they are vegans who love Polar Bears and try to save the earth from those evil 1%ers. They are tolerant of everyone except those who disagree with them. They live their lives to be the perfect liberal who try to earn their way into liberal perfection. Their lives are a series of clichéd phrases and actions, trying to be more liberal than the liberal next to them. They are all pro-“choice”, for homosexual marriage, for salary equality, they worship the earth and most of all you vote Democrat. None of these social laws have anything to do with personal responsibility but enslaving others to your social morality. Tolerance is their sainted behavior and intolerance and Republicanism is the ultimate sin. Every one of these cultish beliefs either directly or indirectly lead you to voting for more Democrats and less individual freedom.

While they look with sanctimonious disdain at Christians and their religious myths and intolerance to be scoffed at they will spend untold millions on frauds which have no credible proof. It takes far more faith to believe in evolution than God when you look at the extremely long odds of random evolving of our complex species yet they laugh at the idea there may be a creator. Both take large amounts of faith to fill in the gaps yet one’s is laughed at while the other is taught in every institution in the country. The reason is these institutions have agreed that evolution is true through consensus which means all gaps in the theory are ignored completely and questioning is stopped. Anybody who argues against the so called proof or evidence are declared heretics to their religion and not admitted into the church of science. This consensus tactic has been repeated throughout liberal politics to declare their ideas right and any dissention attacked.

The mediots are who determine which theories are valid and which need to be rejected and they of course are members of the cult. The media has decided to promote every tenet of their religion from evolution, feminism, veganism, racism, homosexuality, choice, Global Warming, hate the wealthy, communism and every other lifestyle agenda the establishment considers normal. The only miracle is after forty years of political and cultic brainwashing the American dream still lives in half of this country’s citizens. After being mocked and vilified for all of these years Conservatives still have the ability to make these elections competitive considering the overwhelming forces standing against them. There are still people willing to stand up and proudly proclaim their faith in God as well as their trust in individual responsibility.

This should still give us hope that if we find candidates who can articulate Conservatism there are enough people to vote for them. Rather than trying to be like liberals with all their group dividing “isms”, let’s explain how capitalism and God free you rather enslave. Rather than falling for the right colored or gendered candidate, we need to find the ones who can explain the concept of trusting in our own individuality to provide for our families and friends. Rather than bowing to evolution and Global Warming we need people to become informed of the giant gaps in those theories and ask the dirt worshipers to explain why evidence points away from evolution and why there was no warming of the earth for the past ten years?

Let’s move away from consensus as a Party and use the power of variety and experimentation to pave a way to victory from election to election. The country is starving for leaders and rather than following the affirmative action consensus model let’s promote leaders who will lead the followers into our ranks and start attacking the cult. As one of their heroes said, let’s choose our leaders by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

Pray for Washington County

This is the head of the Republican Party in Washington County? Forget the wild-eyed hate orgy screed; the fucker's just barely functionally literate.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

your level of wine, does "Estate Bottled" require the cardboard be made from trees grown on site?

I don't live in Marin County.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone

When a scientist declares something true by consensus such as evolution or Global Warming they accept it as absolute truth. Never mind science has been wrong about similar theories such as acid rain, DDT, Spotted Owls or AIDs affecting heterosexuals they accept it without question. The liberal will accept it completely without hesitation and when someone dares to question the findings of these scientists, that person is attacked and declared a heretic or ignorant of science.
[/INDENT]

That part rings true for my experience here. Me, a scientist, raised some questions that contradicted some of the dogma the powers here spread. To say the least I was attacked, called a troll, etc.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Boon's Farm. They drink like Bukowski. (And they probably smell like he did, as well.)

when Ty bought me dinner he explained a good way to sort through the mid-level wine choices was to look for a vineyard that employed Georgia Pacific for its packaging. GP apparently is particular about where its name goes,

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

OK. But they don't like it. No one likes it. Was Bukowski a happy guy? As Hank is my witness, it's not about liking it.

He seemed to have found peace at the end of Women. The stray cat knew he was "a good guy," and that was good enough for him.

But perhaps you're right. YMMV on what's liking and what's appreciating a thing's anesthetizing qualities (and for those "hippie chicks until graduation" we all knew, ability to wash away one's upper middle class morality and expose her inner venereal disease aficionado).

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

He seemed to have found peace at the end of Women.

and he was dead as a writer. Bukowski successful and happy sucked. It got worse after that but women was certainly on the wrong side of his work.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

when Ty bought me dinner he explained a good way to sort through the mid-level wine choices was to look for a vineyard that employed Georgia Pacific for its packaging. GP apparently is particular about where its name goes,

These crates of Harry and David pears I'm looking at are GP packaged, I believe. Klassee. No pear tastes better than pears left in piles of heavy gauge cardboard boxes on someone's doorstep. I love this time of year for exactly that reason - all those fucking pears. Nothing says thank you from one business associate to another like the Omaha Steaks of Pears - Harry, and fucking David. Littering my lawn with all this delicious fucking fruit. Mmmmm, mmmm... I can't wait start in on another box. Have to eat them fast, you know, before they go bad. Goddamn tragedy for all this top shelf fruit to go to waste, unlike, say, scotch... Which never appears on my porch.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

These crates of Harry and David pears I'm looking at are GP packaged, I believe. Klassee. No pear tastes better than pears left in piles of heavy gauge cardboard boxes on someone's doorstep. I love this time of year for exactly that reason - all those fucking pears. Nothing says thank you from one business associate to another like the Omaha Steaks of Pears - Harry, and fucking David. Littering my lawn with all this delicious fucking fruit. Mmmmm, mmmm... I can't wait start in on another box. Have to eat them fast, you know, before they go bad. Goddamn tragedy for all this top shelf fruit to go to waste, unlike, say, scotch... Which never appears on my porch.

The 6th best movie ever made, Brazil, had a recurring joke of people handing the same gift to each other. It's part of the background noise that makes it so good. That's what these H&D things are, no thought required but box checked off.

edit: the dinner Ty bought me was not a thoughtless choice. He is 1% and atticus are 99%, and Ty picked a place that had a very vile smell, i suppose since he assumed the rest of us usually eat in smelly places? But overall I appreciated his effort.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

They're more like Ron Paul supporters. They're all about libertine freedoms. Not so much interested in redistribution, or fairness, or any policy save the ones that potentially impact their interests. In many instances, they're off the grid, so tax policy doesn't mean much to them.

Hippies more than anything else just want to be left alone. The only quibble they have with Uncle Sam, or Corporations, or any other power structure, is when those things interfere with how they live. Because hippies rarely have any money, this rarely happens. The only point of friction remains the govt's interest in prosecuting drug crime, and even that is waning. In many ways, hippies are quite conventional, boring sorts. The characterization of them as radicals sticks as a vestige of history - when merely living outside rigid cultural norms made one an outlaw. The bar's been set a lot higher since then.

Most of them I know like the sorts of people who blather in favor of liberal policy changes about as much as they like conservatives. The impression I get is hippies are pretty much apolitical, and would view the sorts of arguments we have here as incredibly annoying.

You are hanging with a weird incarnation of hippie.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

when Ty bought me dinner he explained a good way to sort through the mid-level wine choices was to look for a vineyard that employed Georgia Pacific for its packaging. GP apparently is particular about where its name goes,

Be honest. Only paper company you could name, right?

[Adder]

Watching yesterday s daily show. Did o'reilly really deny that Christianity is a religion?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Be honest. Only paper company you could name, right?

translation: one of my partners represents GP so I'm protective.

or perhaps

"my partner represents Smurfit-Stone Container, and I worry that if I don't mention it, I could get fired."

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

translation: one of my partners represents GP so I'm protective.

or perhaps

"my partner represents Smurfit-Stone Container, and I worry that if I don't mention it, I could get fired."

Translation of the translation: yes