Pepper sprayed for public safety.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Translation: my ignorance is so extensive that i have no sense of how former british colonies have all been made independent countries.

Indeed. It would have been preferable if we'd gained our independence around the time India did. If we were still a developing nation, we'd have none of these long term entitlement issues.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Northern was/is part of England. The U.S. is hardly the equivalent. I guess you could equate the Confederate States of America, but if you are going to argue Lincoln's decisions during the 1860s you are going on ignore.

It was/is after it was occupied and colonized, you mean.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Indeed. It would have been preferable if we'd gained our independence around the time India did. If we were still a developing nation, we'd have none of these long term entitlement issues.

The best thing would be we can freely immigrate to any commonwealth country, although if we were able to do that Canada may very well have thrown that option out. Plus, pretty money.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Indeed. It would have been preferable if we'd gained our independence around the time India did. If we were still a developing nation, we'd have none of these long term entitlement issues.

Abject poverty is so much better than marginally higher taxes.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

It was/is after it was occupied and colonized, you mean.

dude. It was once Rome.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2.

Ahhhh, but you can never admit to boredom as a malady. I can say I have ADD, or repressed memories coming back of abuses that may have never happened to me as a child, or restless leg syndrome, or generalized anxiety, or any of a litany of McSyndromes. But say, "I'm just really fucking bored, mostly because work, and routine, are universally really fucking boring," and people call you immature. They tell you you should "make your own fun," or "Seek challenges!" Oh, really? When should I do this? The half hour I'm not having to take some phone call from some asshat from whom I need to collect a fee? The twenty minutes I'm not having to monitor some financial thing, or remember to cover one of a dozen different mundane tasks required to keep the ship afloat?

I'm fucking bored. The work bores me. And it doesn't matter if it's a foreclosure defense, or a dispute involving some exotic private placement investment deal, or even some PI case where somebody will give me a big check when I'm done. Even doing what you love becomes boring. Inevitably, to sell any script, or negotiate with TV people regarding a pitch, it becomes some dull fucking conversation about commerce. How do we cast the widest net to get the most money? Who gets what cut? How many five percent middlemen have to be involved, engaging in superfluous busywork?

Life can be pretty fucking dull, and I'm entitled to say it out loud. And we're all entitled to ask why it can't be more interesting. Why do any of us have to commute? Do we need to waste those hours? They're pretty fucking boring. Why do I need to be in court, live, for a simple fucking hearing without testimony? That's a waste of energy. Why not do it by conference call? Why not let the poor judge who'd otherwise have to trudge into court do it from home? He could get a blow job from his wife between hearings, and he'd be much more relaxed, and a hell of a lot less bored.

And why the 9-5 routine? Why the five day work week? We all claim to want flex time, but still we're all forced to work around arbitrary hours when 70% of boring people who crave routine seem to think everyone else should be at work. I want to work from midnight to 3:00 am, then maybe watch a movie, go to bed at 5:00 am, then wake up at ten or eleven and work for a few more hours, go for a run, then fuck my wife for a while, have a few drinks, read something, perhaps dick around online a bit, then maybe start working again when I feel like it. Why is that only an option in tech?

I know this is unrealistic, as boring people run our boring world, and like it as boring as possible because boring is predictable, and predictable is low risk, which what short term investors who run all the treadmills on this planet seek above all else. Really, I get that. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be allowed to point out the elephant in the corner, and register the grievance we all stifle, more than any other, every day of our working lives: This is Really Fucking Boring.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

dude. It was once Rome.

Ireland? I don't think so. The Romans controlled most of the island of Great Britain and had some interaction with the Irish, but I don't think Rome ever claimed Hibernia.

But as for your implication that the English colonization of Ireland is ancient history, that's also not really right. Most of it happened around the same time they were colonizing the Americas (although the Normans had "visited" earlier).

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

dude. It was once Rome.

I am truly impressed by the outright stupidity of this fight. I mean, it's not just the fight itself, which is moronic, but the totally imbecillic arguments being made in the fight.

Are you and Adder planning runs for Congress?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I am truly impressed by the outright stupidity of this fight. I mean, it's not just the fight itself, which is moronic, but the totally imbecillic arguments being made in the fight.

Are you and Adder planning runs for Congress?

What are you, new here?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Northern was/is part of England.

Dude. Northern Ireland was never part of England. Nor Wales or Scotland, for that matter. England is only a part of Britain, Great or otherwise.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Dude. Northern Ireland was never part of England. Nor Wales or Scotland, for that matter. England is only a part of Britain, Great or otherwise.

Lawyers really do dwell on small details. Yeah yeah yeah, the Act of Union of 1801 (a reaction to United Irishmen rebellion/French invasion of 1798) made Ireland part of the United Kingdom, not England or Great Britain, but come on. Hank is wrong on substance, not form - as Weed (sniff) would have noted were he still around.

And to grade the whole spat - (1) Paris would still be speaking French, albeit with a Petain in nominal charge without les Americaines; (2) we would be a member of the commonwealth with John Boehner as prime minister and Doug Flutie as governor general absent Paris in 1777; and (3) A Star Named Henry is a great novel about (in part) how Britain regarded self-determination in its oldest colony.

Up the Republic!

[Ty@50]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Lawyers really do dwell on small details. Yeah yeah yeah, the Act of Union of 1801 (a reaction to United Irishmen rebellion/French invasion of 1798) made Ireland part of the United Kingdom, not England or Great Britain, but come on. Hank is wrong on substance, not form - as Weed (sniff) would have noted were he still around.

Right? my younger self is picking nits about some non-important detail, while never having apologized to Hank for inviting him and the Missus to a restaurant, that while having good food, smelled like ass. UK history is important, picking non-offensive smelling restaurants, no big dead? I am so ashamed of who I was

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Lawyers really do dwell on small details. Yeah yeah yeah, the Act of Union of 1801 (a reaction to United Irishmen rebellion/French invasion of 1798) made Ireland part of the United Kingdom, not England or Great Britain, but come on. Hank is wrong on substance, not form - as Weed (sniff) would have noted were he still around.

And to grade the whole spat - (1) Paris would still be speaking French, albeit with a Petain in nominal charge without les Americaines; (2) we would be a member of the commonwealth with John Boehner as prime minister and Doug Flutie as governor general absent Paris in 1777; and (3) A Star Named Henry is a great novel about (in part) how Britain regarded self-determination in its oldest colony.

Up the Republic!

Nice try, but you forget, if not for Paris, We would have gained independence with Canada and the Prime Minister of the Truly United Provinces of Almost All of North America would be Gwinky.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Ty@50

Right? my younger self is picking nits about some non-important detail, while never having apologized to Hank for inviting him and the Missus to a restaurant, that while having good food, smelled like ass. UK history is important, picking non-offensive smelling restaurants, no big dead? I am so ashamed of who I was

Like Ty's not 50 yet. Sure.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Lawyers really do dwell on small details. Yeah yeah yeah, the Act of Union of 1801 (a reaction to United Irishmen rebellion/French invasion of 1798) made Ireland part of the United Kingdom, not England or Great Britain, but come on. Hank is wrong on substance, not form - as Weed (sniff) would have noted were he still around.

And to grade the whole spat - (1) Paris would still be speaking French, albeit with a Petain in nominal charge without les Americaines; (2) we would be a member of the commonwealth with John Boehner as prime minister and Doug Flutie as governor general absent Paris in 1777; and (3) A Star Named Henry is a great novel about (in part) how Britain regarded self-determination in its oldest colony.

Up the Republic!

Small details? Gareth Bale and Craig Bellamy do not play for England. The United States did not beat England 5-1 in a friendly last year. Jeebus.