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10-26-2012, 10:53 AM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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I do think he'd be a fun Bond though.
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I would hate to see him play Bond. Not because I don't think he'd be good -- he would be -- but because that whole franchise is so tired. I'd like him to be in something I would actually want to see. (His BBC show qualifies, but only on DVD because I need to subtitles to understand what those people are saying.)
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10-26-2012, 11:49 AM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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I would hate to see him play Bond. Not because I don't think he'd be good -- he would be -- but because that whole franchise is so tired. I'd like him to be in something I would actually want to see. (His BBC show qualifies, but only on DVD because I need to subtitles to understand what those people are saying.)
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As the last two movies have been completely different from the prior twenty (or whatever), I don't agree that the franchise is "tired." Although Quantum of Solace could have used a plot of it's own instead of just trying to extend the Casino Royale story.
I'd agree that pre-Craig was pretty tired with cartoonish villians and woefully implausible plot lines. The change toward more reality was sorely needed.
And I think Idris could be another refreshing change when they are done with Craig. Probably a transition back to a smoother bond, which Idris could still pull off with the underlying physicality.
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Classist bastard. I bet you'd understand posh accents just fine. |
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10-26-2012, 12:00 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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you didn't need to do this, if you had gotten caught up in the whole "angled vagina" thing maybe, but you didn't need to do this.
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10-26-2012, 12:46 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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As the last two movies have been completely different from the prior twenty (or whatever), I don't agree that the franchise is "tired." Although Quantum of Solace could have used a plot of it's own instead of just trying to extend the Casino Royale story.
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"Completely different," not "tired".... but the most recent one tries to extend the one from a few years ago, which itself had the same title and was based on the one from 1967?
Huh.
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10-26-2012, 01:11 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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"Completely different," not "tired".... but the most recent one tries to extend the one from a few years ago, which itself had the same title and was based on the one from 1967?
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Casino Royale from the 60s was a comedy, the recent was not a remake.
I haven't watched one since the 80s, so I have no idea if the movies have been stupid or not, but surely the Moore 80s movies went a long way towards ruining the franchise.
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10-26-2012, 03:14 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch
I would hate to see him play Bond. Not because I don't think he'd be good -- he would be -- but because that whole franchise is so tired. I'd like him to be in something I would actually want to see. (His BBC show qualifies, but only on DVD because I need to subtitles to understand what those people are saying.)
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If you haven't seen Craig in the two most recent Bond flicks, he's worthy of a chance. He's the best Bond since Connery, and I think his portrayal of the character is closer to Ian Fleming's Bond than Albert Broccolli's Bond.
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10-26-2012, 09:08 PM
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If you haven't seen Craig in the two most recent Bond flicks, he's worthy of a chance. He's the best Bond since Connery, and I think his portrayal of the character is closer to Ian Fleming's Bond than Albert Broccolli's Bond.
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2. I like Craig as Bond. The book Bond was more gritty than the movie Bond. And when I say gritty, I don't mean how New Yorkers describe themselves as gritty, which apparently to them means "having the ability to complain about everything". Sometimes things aren't perfect - suck it up and deal with it.*
Also, Quantum of Solace was ruined by the writers strike. Craig apparently had to write some of the script himself:
http://collider.com/daniel-craig-qua...oblems/130951/
*that was for you, Hank. But you'll probably side with them.
ETA: of course, John Le Carre blows Fleming out of the water.
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10-26-2012, 09:43 PM
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ETA: of course, John Le Carre blows Fleming out of the water.
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2. I love LeCarre. It's a shame they really fucked up Tinker, Tailor.
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10-26-2012, 10:00 PM
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2. I love LeCarre. It's a shame they really fucked up Tinker, Tailor.
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I haven't seen the movie. The book was outstanding. The movie got great reviews - you disagree?
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10-26-2012, 10:35 PM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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2. I love LeCarre. It's a shame they really fucked up Tinker, Tailor.
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I quite liked it, but I'm a sucker for shots of Cold War era Eastern Europe, even if simulated. |
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10-27-2012, 12:17 AM
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I haven't seen the movie. The book was outstanding. The movie got great reviews - you disagree?
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It dragged like a fat man's ass. Part of the problem is that I am old enough to remember the British version; a miniseries that was shown on PBS. That had Alec Guinness playing Smiley and ain't nobody alive that could play Smiley better than Alec Guinness.
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10-27-2012, 12:40 AM
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Re: this Avon would certainly not approve of
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It dragged like a fat man's ass. Part of the problem is that I am old enough to remember the British version; a miniseries that was shown on PBS. That had Alec Guinness playing Smiley and ain't nobody alive that could play Smiley better than Alec Guinness.
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I didn't see the miniseries and I didn't read the book, but I quite liked the movie and I'm glad they didn't dumb it down too much for the American audiences, who apparently need to have everything spelled out at least 3 times in order to get it.
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10-27-2012, 03:13 AM
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I didn't see the miniseries and I didn't read the book, but I quite liked the movie and I'm glad they didn't dumb it down too much for the American audiences, who apparently need to have everything spelled out at least 3 times in order to get it.
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2. I just watched it a couple of nights ago. It did start a little bit slow, but the buildup of tension was awesome.
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10-27-2012, 12:55 PM
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2. I just watched it a couple of nights ago. It did start a little bit slow, but the buildup of tension was awesome.
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It did get better as it went on, and perhaps my view was colored by the fact that I saw it with my kids, but an awful lot of what made the books so good was cut out.
This may be better suited to the books thread, but if anyone wants to read one of the best sets of fiction on the Cold War ever should read the trilogy. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, The Honourable Schoolboy, and Smiley's People.
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10-28-2012, 07:44 PM
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Geez, every four years, it's like big flashing neon lights.
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