Full of impotent rage

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I'm afraid I have to agree with Thurgreed. The grammy's are not a substitute for the criminal justice system. People buy his music and that means a decent chunk of society would like to hear him. the grammy's are surely not a place where EVERYONE in the viewing audience needs to like every artist. To the contrary actually, strongly to the contrary.

2 this. Johnny Cash single-handedly killed 49 endangered California condors and never fully paid his debt to society. I'm supposed to dislike his music as an extrajudicial punishment to him? Few people who fully serve their sentences experienced Justice. People are fixated on Chris Brown as the embodiment of DV; they're forgetting how many of their cultural heroes were actually dicks and deserving of being shunned.

[Adder]

Mike Daisy is at best an exaggerator and at worst a liar.

Also, he likes to say his job as a monologist is to humanize stories, yet the workers he talks to have no context beyond his catalog of horrors. Why is that?

Watching old Real Time now, and Maher enables him.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by dtb

Bitch, please.

Search "Trade Secrets" on the blog.

By the way, who makes those pink bling watches that all the gals are wearing these days?

Cool. So you literally carried water for a felon? You are one bad-ass hillbilly.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

crowd scene or volunteer? seriously? do you realize I have 4 FB friends with IMDB pages?

Does my one with an Oscar trump this, or are we about quantity rather than quality?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Does my one with an Oscar trump this, or are we about quantity rather than quality?

this isn't about you and me. I think everyone has a clear choice there already. it's about dtb's reference and its import.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally Posted by dtb

Bitch, please.

Search "Trade Secrets" on the blog.

By the way, who makes those pink bling watches that all the gals are wearing these days?

Is that a doggie joke? Insider trading joke?

Whatever, totally misleading. Bitch, please. You ARE Martha Stewart.

eta Oops. Outable?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

this isn't about you and me. I think everyone has a clear choice there already. it's about dtb's reference and its import.

Fair enough. Has Martha friended her?

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

the next time I see Larry Bell I tell him he should tone down the pricing.

OMG!!!!!! You. Know. Larry. Bell. ???. Hey, next time you see him can you pass on a message from me? Just say something like, um, I don't know. I'm SOOOO nervous! Um, how about, "Good beer." No, no, "Great beer!" Can you tell him I said that? Does that sound dumb? Oh, never mind.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

crowd scene or volunteer?

Neither. In NoCt, dtb is known as "Bunny."

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

2 this. Johnny Cash single-handedly killed 49 endangered California condors and never fully paid his debt to society. I'm supposed to dislike his music as an extrajudicial punishment to him? Few people who fully serve their sentences experienced Justice. People are fixated on Chris Brown as the embodiment of DV; they're forgetting how many of their cultural heroes were actually dicks and deserving of being shunned.

R.L. Burnside shot a man to death in a dice game. When asked if he killed the man, he would admit that he put the gun to the man's head and pulled the trigger, but said that what happened after that "was between [the victim] and the Lord." He got a very short sentence because his sharecropper boss needed him out for harvest. I used to see him tour with T-Model Ford, who spent time on a chain gang, also for taking a man's life with a gun. I suppose I should have skipped the shows, consistent with my firm anti-murder philosophy. But I went anyway because the music was so good, and I was still desperately trying to amass hipster credibility.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

2 this. Johnny Cash single-handedly killed 49 endangered California condors and never fully paid his debt to society. I'm supposed to dislike his music as an extrajudicial punishment to him? Few people who fully serve their sentences experienced Justice. People are fixated on Chris Brown as the embodiment of DV; they're forgetting how many of their cultural heroes were actually dicks and deserving of being shunned.

I'm disappointed. I anticipated a post along these lines from you, but I expected the main character to be Wagner, not Johnny Cash.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

Because he beat up his fellow Grammy-performing girlfriend the night before the Grammys and they both had to cancel. And because he beat the crap out of his girlfriend and seemed to face basically no punishment at all for it.

I think he could have earned his way back onto the Grammy stage as a performer. But I think think they should let more than two shows go by, and he should have to demonstrate that for longer than that that he has grown up and moved on from that type of behavior.

Yeah. I think that's part of what makes it offensive. He can do whatever he wants as long as he sells enough albums.

You have a right to your opinion, but this whole "He can do what he wants because he's a star and sells albums and he doesn't get punished" is pure bullshit.

The guy had done nothing to that point. He was 19 or 20 years old--a kid. Yeah, he did the wrong thing. There's no question about that. But he went through our criminal justice system and ended up getting 6 months community labor and at least 6 months supervised probation. If you think any other similar first offender does hard time, you're delusional.

And what difference does it make that he hit her before the Grammys? If you're going to get up on your soapbox, be consistent. Because if it offends you that he's performing at the Grammys based on that but it wouldn't offend you as much if he had done it 6 months prior to the Grammys, then there's something wrong with you.

What exactly is the right amount of time in your head for someone who's made this kind of mistake when they were 19 or 20 to wait before they're allowed to continue their career anyway?

TM

[Adder]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

And what difference does it make that he hit her before the Grammys?

Because we are talking about performing at the Grammys. His bullshit messed with their show.

Because if it offends you that he's performing at the Grammys based on that but it wouldn't offend you as much if he had done it 6 months prior to the Grammys, then there's something wrong with you.

The offense is the same. The context is different for the Grammys.

What exactly is the right amount of time in your head for someone who's made this kind of mistake when they were 19 or 20 to wait before they're allowed to continue their career anyway?

He's continued his career. That's fine. It's between him and his fans. But the Grammys don't need to reward him by putting them on their show.

I don't know how long exactly. Five years, maybe?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

R.L. Burnside shot a man to death in a dice game. When asked if he killed the man, he would admit that he put the gun to the man's head and pulled the trigger, but said that what happened after that "was between [the victim] and the Lord." He got a very short sentence because his sharecropper boss needed him out for harvest. I used to see him tour with T-Model Ford, who spent time on a chain gang, also for taking a man's life with a gun. I suppose I should have skipped the shows, consistent with my firm anti-murder philosophy. But I went anyway because the music was so good, and I was still desperately trying to amass hipster credibility.

Han shot first.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

R.L. Burnside shot a man to death in a dice game. When asked if he killed the man, he would admit that he put the gun to the man's head and pulled the trigger, but said that what happened after that "was between [the victim] and the Lord." He got a very short sentence because his sharecropper boss needed him out for harvest. I used to see him tour with T-Model Ford, who spent time on a chain gang, also for taking a man's life with a gun. I suppose I should have skipped the shows, consistent with my firm anti-murder philosophy. But I went anyway because the music was so good, and I was still desperately trying to amass hipster credibility.

if notbob were here, he'd remind us it is never okay for a man to hit a lady, or shoot someone to death for that matter. he would worry whether this guy who got on the grammy show was really sorry, and he'd wonder if he wasn't a bit of a bad egg. But he'd also not want us all ganging up against the guy. That's wrong too.