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Old 01-14-2011, 09:40 AM   #616
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Re: History never repeats, I tell myself before I go to sleep.

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*I happen to think the "Malaise Speech" is probably one of the finest, most accurate pieces of oratory ever delivered. For which, of course, the press and public destroyed him. Funny how honesty is viewed in this country. If you go back and look at Carter's predictions, he pretty much nailed all the trends that led to our current mess. And the real beauty of it was the non-partisan tone. He didn't blame a party. He laid the responsibility on us, where it still lies today.
We don't always want honest Presidents. Obama's greatest potential flaw is his knee-jerk reaction to level with us and discuss things with the American public in a way that treats them as intelligent adults. But I still thrill when he pulls it off, if even for a brief moment.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:41 AM   #617
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I don't know what's worse - the misuse of "a" and "and" or the double spaces after a period.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:57 AM   #618
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I don't know what's worse - the misuse of "a" and "and" or the double spaces after a period.
when insulting someone else's grammar or spelling always make sure to use correct grammar and spelling. WTTW
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:58 AM   #619
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when insulting someone else's grammar or spelling always make sure to use correct grammar and spelling. WTTW
shurely - thx

I was just trying to be helpful. I understand people sometimes pay you to write stuff.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:00 AM   #620
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shurely - thx

I was just trying to be helpful. I understand people sometimes pay you to write stuff.
when i "write stuff" i gotta the spellcheck
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:08 AM   #621
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I thought he was an Indy?
He ran for mayor as an R.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:20 AM   #622
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when i "write stuff" i gotta the spellcheck
cool. Your spellcheck gets the difference between "a" and "an"?
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He ran for mayor as an R.
Originally yes, but I think he switched at some point. Any NYers out there?
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:52 AM   #624
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Originally yes, but I think he switched at some point. Any NYers out there?
I have heard speculation that he might run for president as an independent, because someone like him would never get an R endorsement these days, but I thought in New York he was still an R.

But it doesn't really matter, as my point is that is a moderate, of they type that used to be acceptable to the Rs, but no longer is.
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I have heard speculation that he might run for president as an independent, because someone like him would never get an R endorsement these days, but I thought in New York he was still an R.

But it doesn't really matter, as my point is that is a moderate, of they type that used to be acceptable to the Rs, but no longer is.
He's an independent now. I know he won the last race as an independent - did he also have the R and conservative line, or did they run someone else? I don't remember, and thought there was talk at one point of him getting all the major lines.
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We don't always want honest Presidents. Obama's greatest potential flaw is his knee-jerk reaction to level with us and discuss things with the American public in a way that treats them as intelligent adults. But I still thrill when he pulls it off, if even for a brief moment.
We don't want honest anything in this country. We want positive narratives that reinforce an amorphous "dream" we credit to the founding fathers, but in actuality couldn't be more divorced from what they intended. We're so ridiculous and infantile now that many believe reinvigoration of our spirits is what's needed to drag us out of this spiral. "Damn the numbers... Ya just gotta believe. Animal spirits!" As if the concept of irrational exuberance could be harnessed to positive ends. (Makes you want to ask people, "Did you notice the word 'irrational' in it?")

The only skepticism the general public will tolerate is pop junk like Gladwell, who makes them feel even more empowered in their idiot spiritualisms. "Nevermind thinking before leaping. Your instinct knows all!"

And of course, the endless bread and circuses. To borrow from Bill Hicks, "Go back to bed America... We have it all under control. Turn on American Gladiators... Nothing to see here."

Guess I can't complain. The more these suckers get plowed under for taking dumb risks, the more litigation dollars I see. If only I could obliterate the urge to slap them across the face and ask, "WTF were thinking?" It's harder than you think.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:11 AM   #627
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He's an independent now. I know he won the last race as an independent - did he also have the R and conservative line, or did they run someone else? I don't remember, and thought there was talk at one point of him getting all the major lines.
According to wiki, he had the R line too.
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:15 AM   #628
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They don't require new briefing when they rehear a case.
Well, I'm not a USSC expert, so let me ask this:

Do they often have rehearings two years after a decision was made, with several new members on the court?

Do they also choose not to discuss it?


And, nice job not responding to my first point. The Rs have been crowing that HCR is disastrous for business. If that were true, wouldn't they want to present that at hearings? Assuming this was not just political theater, of course -- like a way to distract people from the fact that they were lying about plans to cut spending by $100BB
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Old 01-14-2011, 11:16 AM   #629
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Exactly. The D's had the votes to pass it last year. Now they don't. It's just a reversal of power politics.

It's not like there was debate on the final bill as passed. There were debates on lots of provisions at various points, but the House voted on the modified bill passed by the Senate earlier the same day
There had already been a great deal of debate, but isn't the other reason that the House leadership knew that if they changed so much as a comma, they would get yet another R "filibuster" when the revision went back to the Senate?
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Re: Maybe you all should go back to citing blog quotes after all?

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when the election turned on "should HR have passed?" then nope.
I thought it turned on "keep the government hands off of medicare", "lower income taxes" and "reduce the deficit".

But I'm sure you're right that every one of the 25 seats that turned the house from D to R would have remained D had HCR *not* passed.
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