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05-17-2010, 06:18 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
The nude body of a 19 y.o. woman was found alongside a freeway (what you all would call an "interstate") in L.A. No one witnessed how she got there, so there are no suspects. The LAT headline is "Coroner's office identifies woman allegedly pushed from vehicle on the 105 Freeway." Really? "Allegedly"? Whose presumption of innocence are we protecting with "allegedly"?
Learned from Wikipedia: There's an interchange named after Judge Harry Pregerson because he presided over the lawsuit over the freeway's construction. I think I just TUALBIMM. When I am king there will be no more of that, I'll tell you what.
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05-17-2010, 06:20 PM
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#752
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the poor-man's spuckler
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Facebook is suggesting that I friend Rebecca Romijn. Not fan; friend. So y'all can suck my dick. Hollywood bigtime, here I come!
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So you know Jerry O'Connell, law student. I can't believe you admit that.
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05-17-2010, 06:22 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
Facebook is suggesting that I friend Rebecca Romijn. Not fan; friend. So y'all can suck my dick. Hollywood bigtime, here I come!
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You should. You really should. Consider it payback, to me, for putting up with the rest of your posts.
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05-17-2010, 06:23 PM
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the poor-man's spuckler
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
The nude body of a 19 y.o. woman was found alongside a freeway (what you all would call an "interstate") in L.A. No one witnessed how she got there, so there are no suspects. The LAT headline is "Coroner's office identifies woman allegedly pushed from vehicle on the 105 Freeway." Really? "Allegedly"? Whose presumption of innocence are we protecting with "allegedly"?
Learned from Wikipedia: There's an interchange named after Judge Harry Pregerson because he presided over the lawsuit over the freeway's construction. I think I just TUALBIMM. When I am king there will be no more of that, I'll tell you what.
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I'm more concerned about the other surplusage--"the 105" is more than sufficient without "freeway".
As to "allegedly", maybe she jumped. Or just fell out. Or the aliens were unkind this time.
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05-17-2010, 06:25 PM
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#755
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Not if you're a juvenile offender in Attica.
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We have a strict no murdering, no raping, no bedshitting rule, and an 8:30 p.m. curfew. So far, so good.
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05-17-2010, 06:26 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
The nude body of a 19 y.o. woman was found alongside a freeway (what you all would call an "interstate") in L.A. No one witnessed how she got there, so there are no suspects. The LAT headline is "Coroner's office identifies woman allegedly pushed from vehicle on the 105 Freeway." Really? "Allegedly"? Whose presumption of innocence are we protecting with "allegedly"?
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Is it really inconceivable to you that -- especially in LA -- a 19-year old could do something like take ecstacy, get naked, and do something life-threatening? Hell, Linsdey Lohan calls that "Friday."
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05-17-2010, 06:28 PM
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I thought all that stuff was supposed to be made public after all the ills Bush caused.
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can you imagine if Bush nominated someone who had no accessible opinions? but I'm not suggesting ty lives by a double standard, so don't say I am.
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05-17-2010, 06:40 PM
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
can you imagine if Bush nominated someone who had no accessible opinions? but I'm not suggesting ty lives by a double standard, so don't say I am.
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True. What would have happened if Bush nominated, say, a more intelligent Harriet Miers?
We'll never know, now, will we?
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05-17-2010, 07:38 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I thought all that stuff was supposed to be made public after all the ills Bush caused.
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05-17-2010, 07:39 PM
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Yes, and I was helping you decide.
He's talking about a woman who worked in the White House, was the Dean of HLS, and the Solicitor General before she was 50. Any one of those jobs would be the career highlight for most people. If he thinks she's failing upwards, he should try to figure out why she's doing it with such velocity.
Seriously -- there's a huge difference between her career and a law professor who writes pointless articles on technical subjects that no one will care about.
There seem to be a lot of those people around if you go looking for them, but why bother?
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No one goes looking for them. They find you. It's time we define them more accurately. The first step to eliminating something inefficient (and they are) is describing it.
Do I think we'll eliminate the 80/20 rule, or make corporate hierarchies anything close to lean? No. But we might be able to get it up to 70/30. We might be able to find ways to create better corporate structures that don't inevitably start rewarding people for covering their asses and failing to offend while producing questionable results.
The market needs to find a way to get rid of the "free agent" culture driving wasteful CEO pay. But along with it - something we also need to focus on desperately - is finding a way to eliminate the scads of employees who fit into Brooks' misplaced description of Kagan.*
*The woman's clearly bright and talented, but let's face it, dude... She has no real private sector experience. She has experience dealing with regulation of the private sector, and issues involving the private sector's interfacing with govt. Actual private sector experience means working in the private sector, being responsible for managing some element of a private sector entity. I don't see much of that. She's worked in jobs where politics trumps balance sheet. Brooks probably was wrong to criticize her lack of decisiveness. The real criticism might be that, like so many who've checked the career boxes she has, what she lacks most is experience with reality.
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05-17-2010, 07:45 PM
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch
The nude body of a 19 y.o. woman was found alongside a freeway (what you all would call an "interstate") in L.A. No one witnessed how she got there, so there are no suspects. The LAT headline is "Coroner's office identifies woman allegedly pushed from vehicle on the 105 Freeway." Really? "Allegedly"? Whose presumption of innocence are we protecting with "allegedly"?
Learned from Wikipedia: There's an interchange named after Judge Harry Pregerson because he presided over the lawsuit over the freeway's construction. I think I just TUALBIMM. When I am king there will be no more of that, I'll tell you what.
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Misplaced emphasis. Yours.
I've known chicks to try to exit cars at high speeds. Not nude, but as Sidd said, that's hardly a stretch for some of the more libertine. It's a sunny, warm climate, and we're all but one moment of bad judgment - "We should take down the top... I should get naked and stand up..." - from a headline like that.
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05-17-2010, 07:48 PM
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
can you imagine if Bush nominated someone who had no accessible opinions? but I'm not suggesting ty lives by a double standard, so don't say I am.
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He did. Her name was Harriet Myers.
In fairness, I believe they did have some Youtube video of her washing one of Bush's tractors on the ranch while waxing jurisprudential to Laura re: the need to put teeth in the Erie Doctrine.
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05-17-2010, 07:50 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
No one goes looking for them. They find you. It's time we define them more accurately. The first step to eliminating something inefficient (and they are) is describing it.
Do I think we'll eliminate the 80/20 rule, or make corporate hierarchies anything close to lean? No. But we might be able to get it up to 70/30. We might be able to find ways to create better corporate structures that don't inevitably start rewarding people for covering their asses and failing to offend while producing questionable results.
The market needs to find a way to get rid of the "free agent" culture driving wasteful CEO pay. But along with it - something we also need to focus on desperately - is finding a way to eliminate the scads of employees who fit into Brooks' misplaced description of Kagan.*
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OK. But most CEOs are more concerned about the next quarterly figures, no?
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*The woman's clearly bright and talented, but let's face it, dude... She has no real private sector experience. She has experience dealing with regulation of the private sector, and issues involving the private sector's interfacing with govt. Actual private sector experience means working in the private sector, being responsible for managing some element of a private sector entity. I don't see much of that. She's worked in jobs where politics trumps balance sheet. Brooks probably was wrong to criticize her lack of decisiveness. The real criticism might be that, like so many who've checked the career boxes she has, what she lacks most is experience with reality.
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It is absolutely true that she has no private-sector experience. For better or worse, you could say the same thing about most justices. As we all know, in-house lawyers are brain-dead automatons who aren't really professionals but slavishly do their corporate masters' bidding. Not a gig for a real lawyer, right?
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05-17-2010, 08:06 PM
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK. But most CEOs are more concerned about the next quarterly figures, no?
It is absolutely true that she has no private-sector experience. For better or worse, you could say the same thing about most justices. As we all know, in-house lawyers are brain-dead automatons who aren't really professionals but slavishly do their corporate masters' bidding. Not a gig for a real lawyer, right?
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Absolutely. 75% climb a corp ladder through politics, luck and some ability, then crow about how they're the reason the company had a spectacular quarter and, when a few quarters later the business cycle isn't as kind to the company, they parachute out and joint the free agent market. It's a fucked system. The "talent" justification is a bad fucking joke.
How's an in-house lawyer dumb? If you've the choice of billing your time like a factory shlep in a firm, or getting paid a similar amount to work in house, how's it even a decision? Could there ever be a question on which to pick? Of course, choosing the much better of two evils doesn't make one brilliant, but it's much closer to that than "brain dead." Quite opposed, I'd say.
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05-17-2010, 08:13 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: Having The Same Argument, Again.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
He did. Her name was Harriet Myers.
In fairness, I believe they did have some Youtube video of her washing one of Bush's tractors on the ranch while waxing jurisprudential to Laura re: the need to put teeth in the Erie Doctrine.
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et tu whiffe?
edit- Ty is not seriously supporting the kagan nomination. he posted at least ten other people's opinions that Harriet m was unqualified for the exact same reason. you should know when he is just messing around.
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