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Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:05 AM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Funny time!

I saw a George Carlin special on HBO, and he was revitalized. He was doing politics and seemed way younger and more alive than when I had last seen him.

He was companing about how the government is out of hand on abortion and was crazy into censoring TV and radio. He felt the administration was chopping into our personal freedoms left and right, and starting wars for no reason. I thought "well it's not original or funny, but at least he's coherent again."

Then he mentioned Reagan. Turns out the show was from the 80s. You guys are so clueless and blinder-visioned, that you just throw out the same tired complaints regardless of whether they make any sense at all.

Anyways, I was glad I wasn't on your side of the debate because if I was I'd have to admit how trite and basically empty in truth and value my entire political belief system had become.

Do you ever get bothered, or do you not ask yourself hard questions?

I saw that same show. The demos are missing a moral compass and any foundation of belief in right and wrong or the UMC to re-build a compass upon. They are morally relativistic socialist hordes intent on stealing the money of the entrepreneurial class of America to maintain their oppressive plantation politics and potentially rob all of us of our freedom.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:09 AM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
Every so often, I wonder what life would be like if I were a sociopath, utterly without compassion or concern for the welfare of anyone other than myself, dedicated to the sole proposition of preserving a level of privilege for myself.

Then I remember I'm a democrat, and I feel human again.
Do you ever wonder how the racistly oppressed underclass of America who the demos keep down on the plantation feel? Ever wonder how the rape and sexual harassment victims of the demo party leadership feel? Ever wonder how Mary Jo Kopechne's family feels? Ever wonder how Terri Schiavo's family feels?

Thank god and his son, babyjesuschristsuperstar, that the compassionate conservatives are there to pick up the pieces of ruinious devastation the dimwits wreak upon our nation.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:11 AM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
huh?

You say Penske is irrelevant because he brings up Clinton. You guys are recycling Reagan arguments. You lose- Reagan was the Century's 2nd best President.

Oh. and olive branch! I don't blame you! Robots don't know they are operating under a program.
Kool aide=diminished capacity.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 09:03 AM

Alito!
 
Eat shite liberal cultists of death! There goes Roe and Casey!! Woo hooo!!!

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 09:29 AM

more Alito!
 
Note to all the haters, non-belivers and wack-ass deceivers here, on my original Sup Ct. list Alito was 3rd.

Today is a true victory to those of us who want to restore constitutionalism to the SCotUS.

By the by Reid and Schumer are already out of the box against Alito. Why do these shitstains hate America?

http://www.justice-denied.net/schumer_stinkycheese.gif

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 09:39 AM

Filibuster?
 
Frist is out in front of this nominee and just invoked the nuclear option.

BOOM!

Fuck you Dimwits!

http://www.eyeonwisconsin.com/BushFinger-1.jpg

http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Bush-...fuck%20you.jpg

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 10:11 AM

more demo racism?
 
One outraged Republican strategist claimed, “If Alito were a liberal there would be no way Democrats and Washington’s media elite would use such a ethnically insensitive nickname. Italian-Americans should not have to face these types of derogatory racial slurs in 21st century America.”

Exactly. Of course the children of Italian-American immigrants who escape the Demo plantation and pull themselves up by their bootstraps to succeed in realising the American dream (and in doing so conclude just how full of shite and morally corrupt the demos are) are just the type of Americans whom the dimwits hate the most.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 10:55 AM

Rosa Parks
 
sam Alito is at the Capital Rotunda as I type paying his last respects.

Why the demos, like Reid and Schumer, show him no respect?

Gattigap 10-31-2005 11:24 AM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You guys are recycling Reagan arguments.
Proven conclusively by Hank's drunken viewing of a 1980s era Carlin special on HBO.

Gattigap 10-31-2005 11:26 AM

Rosa Parks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
sam Alito is at the Capital Rotunda as I type paying his last respects.

Why the demos, like Reid and Schumer, show him no respect?
I've read very little about Alito. What's his judicial philosophy, Penske?

SlaveNoMore 10-31-2005 11:27 AM

more demo racism?
 
The fine folks over at Daily Kos are already in-fighting among themselves between those who decry Alito as (i) an "italian thug" , (ii) mafia judge and (iii) altar boy set on raping America - and the others who (rightfully) call that half out as racist pigs.

Gattigap 10-31-2005 12:01 PM

Rosa Parks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
I've read very little about Alito. What's his judicial philosophy, Penske?
While I'm waiting for Penske's photoshop-free exposition on Alito's judicial philosophy, I'll note that Alito's opinion in Casey apparently sets the stage for the pitched battle on abortion that The Movement has wanted.

At least now we won't be having debates about judicial qualifications, or for that matter about a wink and a nudge from the President about Roe v. Wade. Slate had a recent piece about how the failed Miers nomination signalled the death of the coded message on SCOTUS nominees:
  • The Miers nomination went off the rails about seven seconds after it was announced, in large part because President Bush tried to mollify his base in code. The nominee had no background or record as a movement conservative and no written promises to be the kind of right-wing activist who would spearhead a Supreme Court counterrevolution. What she had—according to the president—was a "good heart." She was a religious person and she was loyal to him. That, Bush thought, would suffice to assure everyone that she had it in for Roe v. Wade.

    But it didn't suffice, because movement conservatives weren't willing to settle for a coded message anymore. They have built up a strong and capable stable of thinkers and jurists who are not speaking in half-promises or symbols. And they wanted a nominee with the brains and brawn to overturn Roe because it's bad law rather than just because it's "a sin." The code also didn't suffice because the right had heard the same coded promises about Justices Sandra Day O'Connor, Anthony Kennedy, and David Souter—and had dejectedly watched them go on to uphold Roe. Sick and tired of ambiguous messages and middle-of-the-road nominees, they would not be placated by anyone who wasn't willing to say, as are Janice Rodgers Brown or Priscilla Owen or Edith Jones, that Roe must die now.

    John Roberts was the last wink, or coded nominee, the far right will ever accept. Not because he won't prove to be as conservative as they hope. But because they held their fire on Roberts as a quid pro quo; they were assured that an Owen or a Michael Luttig would be their payback for that acquiescence. Bush's base never loved Roberts. They worried about his moderation and his caution and they worried about his possible softness on gay rights after it became clear that he'd been on the wrong side of Romer v. Evans—the 1996 gay-rights case out of Colorado. The outrage you saw over Miers was the outrage of a promise broken.

So The Movement was unwilling to accept another promise from its president, and demanded someone who was on record as being hostile to Roe. Apparently, in Alito, they've got one.

As amusing as Bush's awkward Kabuki Theatre moment was ("C'mon, guys! [wink. wink!] She's fine! Really!"), it may be to the detriment of Democrats to result in someone like Alito, but being more honest about the nominations may be better for everyone in the long run.

Gattigap

spookyfish 10-31-2005 12:10 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The fine folks over at Daily Kos are already in-fighting among themselves between those who decry Alito as (i) an "italian thug" , (ii) mafia judge and (iii) altar boy set on raping America - and the others who (rightfully) call that half out as racist pigs.
Okay, maybe one of you guys could explain this to me. I will agree with you that the above-mentioned labels are inappropriate. Fine.

But I honestly don't get how the term "Scalito" is seen as a racist or ethnic insult, if it is describing his judicial philosophy. Seeing as how Penske has referred to Mrs. Clinton as "Hitlery" I don't know how many times, I think the criticism rings pretty hollow. Besides, if you're trying to be accurate (at least in your own deluded portrayal of her), "Hitlery" doesn't really work, does it? As I recall, I don't think Hitler was much a fan of leftists, was he?

Is "Scalia-lite" any less offensive/"racist" (or inaccurate).

I guess it's okay to throw those kind of barbs/bombs when it's not your guys who are the targets.

Frankly, I could do without the name-calling from both sides.

spookyfish 10-31-2005 12:13 PM

more demo racism?
 
Double.

Hank Chinaski 10-31-2005 12:23 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Okay, maybe one of you guys could explain this to me. I will agree with you that the above-mentioned labels are inappropriate. Fine.

But I honestly don't get how the term "Scalito" is seen as a racist or ethnic insult, if it is describing his judicial philosophy. Seeing as how Penske has referred to Mrs. Clinton as "Hitlery" I don't know how many times, I think the criticism rings pretty hollow. Besides, if you're trying to be accurate (at least in your own deluded portrayal of her), "Hitlery" doesn't really work, does it? As I recall, I don't think Hitler was much a fan of leftists, was he?

Is "Scalia-lite" any less offensive/"racist" (or inaccurate).

I guess it's okay to throw those kind of barbs/bombs when it's not your guys who are the targets.

Frankly, I could do without the name-calling from both sides.
not racist (and as pointed out by T on FB, it would xenophobic, not racist). I'm sure sidd will agree with me that Ities aren't offended by it. The only possible crazed way to see it as racist is to assume that the term is only used becasue they are both Italian. In fact, it seems like it's more a philisophic thing.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:23 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Okay, maybe one of you guys could explain this to me. I will agree with you that the above-mentioned labels are inappropriate. Fine.

But I honestly don't get how the term "Scalito" is seen as a racist or ethnic insult, if it is describing his judicial philosophy. Seeing as how Penske has referred to Mrs. Clinton as "Hitlery" I don't know how many times, I think the criticism rings pretty hollow. Besides, if you're trying to be accurate (at least in your own deluded portrayal of her), "Hitlery" doesn't really work, does it? As I recall, I don't think Hitler was much a fan of leftists, was he?

Is "Scalia-lite" any less offensive/"racist" (or inaccurate).

I guess it's okay to throw those kind of barbs/bombs when it's not your guys who are the targets.

Frankly, I could do without the name-calling from both sides.
As far you know I am not the mainstream media or a mainstream commentator or an elected official. the only place I use the term is a relatively anonymous chatboard that at most 40 people read.

There is a difference there, see if you can discern it. Although it's interesting somehow the racism of the mainstream liberals can be attempted to be excused because little old me compares Hillary to Hitler (which, for anyone who has read her mein kampf Senior thesis from Wellesly, is an apt comparison).

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:29 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Double.
It was better the second time, you should have left it.

Encore encore!!!

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:35 PM

Rosa Parks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
I've read very little about Alito. What's his judicial philosophy, Penske?
Judicial conservative. Plain and simple. And anti-Casey & Roe, boc.

spookyfish 10-31-2005 12:36 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It was better the second time, you should have left it.

Encore encore!!!
Only if I can expect more nonsense from you as a response.

(I need something out of this transaction too, you know. . . )

Secret_Agent_Man 10-31-2005 12:40 PM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
huh?

You say Penske is irrelevant because he brings up Clinton. You guys are recycling Reagan arguments. You lose- Reagan was the Century's 2nd best President.

Oh. and olive branch! I don't blame you! Robots don't know they are operating under a program.
I'll charitably assume that you did not understand what I was getting at with the post to which you initially responded.

I also find it strange -- though not completely insulting -- that you equate my politics with those of George Carlin.

On your Penske point -- this is a strange conversation to have, but the analogy only works if "we" constantly brought up Pres. Reagan, the jelly beans, Nancy Reagan, Iran-Contra, the astrologer, and RR's likely illness for the last two years of his office (for example) at every opportunity -- and kept hammering away at those items as purported substantive responses to issues of the day, as Penske does with the Clintons (sorry, Clintoons).

That is different than making some of the same arguments, with some of the same themes, about and against policies of the Bush II administration which some "liberals" may have made about and against Reagan back in the day. That simply shows ideological consistency. I'd wager that some of the conservative talking points from the Carter days showed up again during the Clinton years.

S_A_M

Secret_Agent_Man 10-31-2005 12:47 PM

Rosa Parks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
I've read very little about Alito. What's his judicial philosophy, Penske?
That is irrelevant Gatti. The President is entitled to deference and respect for his appointment of any quaified nominee. I'm sure that judicial philosophy will not be a subject of inquiry.

S_A_M

P.S. The sense I get is a cross between Scalia and Kennedy (i.e. libertarian in some ways, but quite "conservative" in many others). He is clearly a sharp guy who has the firepower for the job. That said, I still have to decide whether I think he's the best we're likely to get from Bush.

Nut Penske 10-31-2005 12:47 PM

Rosa Parks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Judicial conservative. Plain and simple. And anti-Casey & Roe, boc.
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/1/30497821_F_tn.jpg

Not Bob 10-31-2005 12:50 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The fine folks over at Daily Kos are already in-fighting among themselves between those who decry Alito as (i) an "italian thug" , (ii) mafia judge and (iii) altar boy set on raping America - and the others who (rightfully) call that half out as racist pigs.
I don't read Kos, but good for the second half. This is a non-partisan phenomenon, btw. The fringes (not you, fringey, baby) on both sides regularly make racist comments about nominees. From Bill Lann Lee, to Clarence Thomas, Scalia, Ginsberg -- it's all too common.

I'm Not Italian (NTTAWWT), but it seems like any successful Italian American lawyer/politician/businessperson gets tagged with the Mafia label. WTF? I'm beginning to think that Melfi's ex-husband had a point.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:53 PM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Proven conclusively by Hank's drunken viewing of a 1980s era Carlin special on HBO.
Why do use "drunken"? nothing in Hank's post was an admission of impairment. Why the attempt to slanderise him? Can you ever post without PoPD?

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:55 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
Only if I can expect more nonsense from you as a response.

(I need something out of this transaction too, you know. . . )
Never let it be said I don't have the decency to give a reach around.

Was that good for you too?

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 12:58 PM

Burger - Who Won
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I'll charitably assume that you did not understand what I was getting at with the post to which you initially responded.

I also find it strange -- though not completely insulting -- that you equate my politics with those of George Carlin.

On your Penske point -- this is a strange conversation to have, but the analogy only works if "we" constantly brought up Pres. Reagan, the jelly beans, Nancy Reagan, Iran-Contra, the astrologer, and RR's likely illness for the last two years of his office (for example) at every opportunity -- and kept hammering away at those items as purported substantive responses to issues of the day, as Penske does with the Clintons (sorry, Clintoons).

That is different than making some of the same arguments, with some of the same themes, about and against policies of the Bush II administration which some "liberals" may have made about and against Reagan back in the day. That simply shows ideological consistency. I'd wager that some of the conservative talking points from the Carter days showed up again during the Clinton years.

S_A_M
The difference is Reagan effected positive lasting change on both the domestic and international front. Clinton's legacy is perjury, sexual harassment, failed healthcare initiative; attempt to conspire with a babykilling terrorist to cement the second genocide of the jews and 3000 Americans dead.

SlaveNoMore 10-31-2005 01:00 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

spookyfish
But I honestly don't get how the term "Scalito" is seen as a racist or ethnic insult...
Me either.

The anti-Catholic vitriol I read on Kos, however, is disgusting.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:04 PM

Rosa Parks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nut Penske
http://www.strangepolitics.com/image...ent/109027.jpg
Ha. Funny. Last laugh will be when Alito is sitting on the court in '06 to cast a decisive vote in a 5-4 decision upholding parental notice/consent laws related to abortion. Ha ha ha.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:07 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
I don't read Kos, but good for the second half. This is a non-partisan phenomenon, btw. The fringes (not you, fringey, baby) on both sides regularly make racist comments about nominees. From Bill Lann Lee, to Clarence Thomas, Scalia, Ginsberg -- it's all too common.

I'm Not Italian (NTTAWWT), but it seems like any successful Italian American lawyer/politician/businessperson gets tagged with the Mafia label. WTF? I'm beginning to think that Melfi's ex-husband had a point.
That's the racism of liberalism. It's okay though because Italian Americans are no longer loyal to the plantation of the dimwits, so their collective reputations are expendable.

Congrats on ingraining that prejudice in the system. Thankfully there are people like Alito, Scalia and Jeanine Pirro who blow it away.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:08 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Me either.

The anti-Catholic vitriol I read on Kos, however, is disgusting.
Liberals hate the babyjesuschristsuperstar and all of his earthly representatives. the faithful are freaks to the leftists.

Captain 10-31-2005 01:11 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Me either.

The anti-Catholic vitriol I read on Kos, however, is disgusting.
Unfortunately, I think anonymous posting on internet fora tends to let the worst in people come out. I am always surprised at some of the things I see here, but if we accept the idea that the board will not be heavily moderated, there is always someone who decides it can be a place to vent their ugly side. It is the same at Kos or anywhere.

I suspect anti-Catholic vitriol and worse is in the hearts of more than a few on both sides of the ideological debate. But I find it somewhat comforting that the born-again right wing in America is looking so heavily to Catholic jurists for jurisprudential guidance. That in itself is an achievement.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:14 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Captain
Unfortunately, I think anonymous posting on internet fora tends to let the worst in people come out. I am always surprised at some of the things I see here, but if we accept the idea that the board will not be heavily moderated, there is always someone who decides it can be a place to vent their ugly side. It is the same at Kos or anywhere.
2.

The Kos Kids and the DUmmies are the worst of the excesses that the First Amendment allows. thankfully most of those socialist bloviaters are doomed to a life of abject loserdom, thus it is unlikely I will ever encounter any of them. i.r.l.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:26 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Me either.

The anti-Catholic vitriol I read on Kos, however, is disgusting.
Speaking of disgusting, take at look at the vile filthy comments CBSNews made about Alito.

The rot of liberalism is near complete.

CBSNEWS Chief White House correspondent John Roberts described the President’s selection of Judge Samuel Alito as “sloppy seconds” during today’s press gaggle with White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan.

John Roberts: “So, Scott, you said that -- or the President said, repeatedly, that Harriet Miers was the best person for the job. So does that mean that Alito is sloppy seconds, or what?”

Scott McClellan: “Not at all, John.”

Sloppy seconds” is described in the United Kingdom’s A Dictionary of Slang as:

Noun: “A subsequent indulgence in an activity by a second person involving an exchange of bodily fluids. This may involve the sharing of drink, or more often it applies to a sexual nature. E.g. ‘I’m not having sloppy seconds, I want to shag her first.’”

SlaveNoMore 10-31-2005 01:29 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Captain
But I find it somewhat comforting that the born-again right wing in America is looking so heavily to Catholic jurists for jurisprudential guidance. That in itself is an achievement.
Papists rock!!!

Diane_Keaton 10-31-2005 01:47 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Speaking of disgusting, take at look at the vile filthy comments CBSNews made about Alito.

The rot of liberalism is near complete.

CBSNEWS Chief White House correspondent John Roberts described the President’s selection of Judge Samuel Alito as “sloppy seconds” during today’s press gaggle with White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan.

John Roberts: “So, Scott, you said that -- or the President said, repeatedly, that Harriet Miers was the best person for the job. So does that mean that Alito is sloppy seconds, or what?”

Scott McClellan: “Not at all, John.”

Sloppy seconds” is described in the United Kingdom’s A Dictionary of Slang as:

Noun: “A subsequent indulgence in an activity by a second person involving an exchange of bodily fluids. This may involve the sharing of drink, or more often it applies to a sexual nature. E.g. ‘I’m not having sloppy seconds, I want to shag her first.’”

Penske, my man. And what of the reference in July 2004 by a spokeswoman for the Repub Nat'l Committee (Tara Wall -- below) of John Kerry's choice of Edwards as "sloppy seconds"? Maybe Drudge should be linking to that video clip in the same article.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/89/97...araWallPic.jpg

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:54 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Penske, my man. And what of the reference in July 2004 by a spokeswoman for the Repub Nat'l Committee (Tara Wall -- below) of John Kerry's choice of Edwards as "sloppy seconds"? Maybe Drudge should be linking to that video clip in the same article.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/89/97...araWallPic.jpg
Yes, but with those two, the term, in its slang sense and as double entendre, was more appropriate. No?






http://img14.exs.cx/img14/5125/thekiss.jpg

Anntila the Hun 10-31-2005 01:54 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Penske, my man. And what of the reference in July 2004 by a spokeswoman for the Repub Nat'l Committee (Tara Wall -- below) of John Kerry's choice of Edwards as "sloppy seconds"? Maybe Drudge should be linking to that video clip in the same article.

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/89/97...araWallPic.jpg
You infidel-loving socialistic bloated limousine liberal media-loving should just shut TF up and let the adults run the country, like they have been. I guess it escaped your notice that Tara is a freedom-loving card carrying proud American. Besides, have you ever seen Kerry and Edwards eating together? "Sloppy" doesn't begin to describe it.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 01:55 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anntila the Hun
Besides, have you ever seen Kerry and Edwards eating together? "Sloppy" doesn't begin to describe it.

Really sloppy PDA....

Sexual Harassment Panda 10-31-2005 02:05 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Really sloppy PDA....
That's one advantage Cheney enjoyed. Nobody would ever put up a page like that with Dicky. Even in an internet world riddled with man-on-dog porn, some things just aren't done.

Penske_Account 10-31-2005 02:13 PM

more demo racism?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
That's one advantage Cheney enjoyed. Nobody would ever put up a page like that with Dicky. Even in an internet world riddled with man-on-dog porn, some things just aren't done.
the dimwits leave themselves open for it.......

http://www.bartcop.com/tutu-2005-biden.jpg


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