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Old 09-20-2019, 01:49 PM   #3443
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Re: Um...

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall View Post
I'm not saying they're all ogres. I'm saying they're all fucking selfish assholes. If you don't push back against the actual government waste instead of using it to coat your unbelievably broad brush you use to say all government is wasteful so I'll just vote my wallet because you just don't like paying taxes, you're full of shit. These people are how we end up with a fucking little shit-rat like Grover Norquist wielding actual fucking power over the entire government.

And picking and choosing which shit you don't like paying for such that you are a wallet-only voter is fucking stupid. There are all sorts of shit I don't want to pay for. But this is a democracy. A society. Sometimes you lose, but in the grand scheme you win. We live in the richest country in the world with the greatest economy. To get to that point, it costs fucking money in the form of investment in ourselves, collectively. Wallet-voters have taken advantage of all that to enrich themselves and now they want to opt out of paying. Fuck them all. Either work to figure out where we can eliminate legitimate waste or shut the fuck up.

You're just describing different levels of selfish assholes. It's all the same shit whether you're talking about these assholes or the parents in whatever suburb who continually fight to have the boundaries of their school districts reduced so that their taxes never pay for a public education for someone who isn't in their income bracket. It's all the same.

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People have a right to be selfish. You can chide them for it. And you should. But people have that right.

I do not think people have a right to fix the game. It's one thing to not give a shit about others. But when you work to make sure they never have a chance, you're doing something different. When you rig the system, you're not saying, "You're on your own little guy... good fucking luck." You're instead saying, "You've got no chance because I have the ability to fix society so you cannot do better."

The difference is, with the latter, you are anti-competitive. In the former, you're just selfish. You're correct that these behaviors can be seen as a continuum of thinking. But I think fixing the game trends from libertarianism into unethical, perhaps quasi-criminal behavior.
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