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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I see your argument. But what I was describing is, I think, a mindset one or two steps beyond wallet voting. Wallet voters are self interested, yes, but having been one, I can offer this: A lot of the decision to avoid taxes at all costs accrues from recognition of the reality that govt wastes money. One of my biggest annoyances is the defense budget. It infuriates me to see it increased. Tax voters are not all ogres.
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I'm not saying they're all ogres. I'm saying they're all fucking selfish assholes. If you don't push back against the
actual government waste instead of using it to coat your unbelievably broad brush you use to say all government is wasteful so I'll just vote my wallet because you just don't like paying taxes, you're full of shit. These people are how we end up with a fucking little shit-rat like Grover Norquist wielding actual fucking power over the entire government.
And picking and choosing which shit you don't like paying for such that you are a wallet-only voter is fucking stupid. There are all sorts of shit I don't want to pay for. But this is a democracy. A society. Sometimes you lose, but in the grand scheme you win. We live in the richest country in the world with the greatest economy. To get to that point, it costs fucking money in the form of investment in ourselves,
collectively. Wallet-voters have taken advantage of all that to enrich themselves and now they want to opt out of paying. Fuck them all. Either work to figure out where we can eliminate legitimate waste or shut the fuck up.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But putting all of that aside, the finance people I’m talking about are not just avoiding taxes. They are predatory. There’s a belief that we’re moving into a time of scarcity for most, fabulous wealth for a few, and they need to maximize gains ASAP. Bank it for the coming collapse. They also believe they will be protected if the shit hits the fan. And if you tell them their money will not do that, that the Czar and Shah said similar things, they will call you a fool. They’ll remind you that the 1% owns the govt.
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You're just describing different levels of selfish assholes. It's all the same shit whether you're talking about these assholes or the parents in whatever suburb who continually fight to have the boundaries of their school districts reduced so that their taxes never pay for a public education for someone who isn't in their income bracket. It's all the same.
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