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11-04-2019, 11:24 AM
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Didn't know that, but now that I do I still don't understand what you were trying to say.
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He's saying the Dems are incompetent because right wingers claim to have ID'd the whistleblower. See? Both sides.
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11-04-2019, 12:36 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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He's saying the Dems are incompetent because right wingers claim to have ID'd the whistleblower. See? Both sides.
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He can't be saying that. That's silly.
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11-04-2019, 12:43 PM
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Wearing the cranky pants
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Calling DebtSlave
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11-04-2019, 02:07 PM
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by Adder
He's saying the Dems are incompetent because right wingers claim to have ID'd the whistleblower. See? Both sides.
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I’m saying I don’t know what the hell is going on on either side. The WB is some CIA person with ties to Brennan. The WH apparently allowed this person to stay close enough to the call despite having previously suspected the person of leaking to sabotage other Trump foreign policy initiatives. That’s a monumental fuckup.
But now Schiff is trying to hide the WB, like the world doesn’t know the name already. Schiff should instead be acknowledging the ID and trying to counter the narrative being built about the WB.
If this thing looks too much like a hit job coordinated by Schiff, that’s even further reason for Rs to vote for acquittal. Schiff owns his WB. Time to defend that WB.
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11-04-2019, 02:22 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But now Schiff is trying to hide the WB, like the world doesn’t know the name already. Schiff should instead be acknowledging the ID and trying to counter the narrative being built about the WB.
If this thing looks too much like a hit job coordinated by Schiff, that’s even further reason for Rs to vote for acquittal. Schiff owns his WB. Time to defend that WB.
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You spend too much time watching FOX, or something.
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11-04-2019, 02:27 PM
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You spend too much time watching FOX, or something.
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That came from Real Clear Politics.
ETA: No, Realclearinvestigations.com. Under section, “Trump, Russia and the Beltway.”
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11-04-2019, 02:40 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That came from Real Clear Politics.
ETA: No, Realclearinvestigations.com. Under section, “Trump, Russia and the Beltway.”
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"or something"
If Schiff responded to those reports in a way that validates them, he outs the whistleblower. They don't know who it is, and he does.
There is no upside for Schiff to talk about the whistleblower's identity. Republicans are doing it as an excuse to talk about something other than what the Administration did.
Not sure why you so credulously repeat conservative talking points.
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11-04-2019, 03:00 PM
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"or something"
If Schiff responded to those reports in a way that validates them, he outs the whistleblower. They don't know who it is, and he does.
There is no upside for Schiff to talk about the whistleblower's identity. Republicans are doing it as an excuse to talk about something other than what the Administration did.
Not sure why you so credulously repeat conservative talking points.
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Now RCP is right wing tripe? What isn’t in your world?
There’s huge upside, because if RCP and everyone else driving the narrative are correct about the WB, they’re “owning the space.” Schiff’s going to come out with testimony on the heels of a national “jury pool” already half or more biased against him.
From a PR perspective, this WB can and is being spun as a D operative. People don’t buy anonymous sources. Schiff needs to counter that.
This isn’t a conservative talking point. This is a simple assessment of strategy.
And you need to stop using that cheap comment. I think you think it works. It’s actually boring. If you want to take cheap shots, do something that interests me.
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11-04-2019, 03:29 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Now RCP is right wing tripe?
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Dude, RCP is an aggregator. I have clicked through to see who they are aggregating here, but I will wager it's a right-wing source, since mainstream media so far is not rushing to unmask the whistleblower.
eta: Paul Sperry. Give me a f*cking break.
And I responding about "the narrative." The "narrative" is about the President's conduct. No one that I've seen has identified anything that the whistleblower got anything wrong. Anyone talking about the whistleblower as if it matters to anything is trying to change the subject.
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11-04-2019, 03:54 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Whistling down the alley
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
There’s huge upside, because if RCP and everyone else driving the narrative are correct about the WB, they’re “owning the space.” Schiff’s going to come out with testimony on the heels of a national “jury pool” already half or more biased against him.
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The whistleblower is no longer a key witness. Even leaving aside that Schiff is legally and morally obligated to protect their identity, talking about him doesn't help the Dems or impeachment in any way.
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From a PR perspective, this WB can and is being spun as a D operative. People don’t buy anonymous sources. Schiff needs to counter that.
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Why? You've already bought into the distraction.
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11-04-2019, 02:38 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
From the Twitter:
PRESS: how will you pay for your plans?
TRUMP: mexico
PRESS: ok
GOP: economics
PRESS: sure
WARREN: a detailed set of reforms including a wealth tax and spending adjustments
PRESS: [lowers glasses] sounds a little uNrEaLiStIc
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