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		|  09-28-2006, 07:13 PM | #2341 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky I thought all Liberals were Atheists who hated the Catholic Church.
 |  That popular conservative myth comes right after the "Liberals have horns and are the tools of Satan and the Pope" and right before the "Conservatives are Fiscally Responsible" chapters in the Republican Party playbook, but is no more true than either of those. |  
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		|  09-28-2006, 07:13 PM | #2342 |  
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		| Greedy,Greedy,Greedy True.
 |  Your selective editing looks familiar.
 
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		|  09-28-2006, 07:17 PM | #2343 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore Your selective editing looks familiar.
 
 Howell Raines, is that you????
 |  No, but I do moonlight for Letterman. |  
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		|  09-28-2006, 08:03 PM | #2344 |  
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		| Originally posted by Spanky I read this as, although, sometime in rare circumstances, it may be the right thing to do to use torture, we don't want to statutorily recognize this because it may lead to abuse.  So when it comes down to the cost benefit analysis, it is better to put our CIA operatives  in a cloud of uncertainty when they are trying to protect innocents from harm, and possibly have to face prosecution for doing the right thing, than have the possibility that the statutory language may lead to abuse of prisoners.
 |  Yes.  Have you ever heard of a CIA operative being prosecuted for this stuff?  Prosecutorial discretion is not a bad thing.
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		|  09-28-2006, 08:49 PM | #2345 |  
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		| Tyrone Slothrop Yes.  Have you ever heard of a CIA operative being prosecuted for this stuff?  Prosecutorial discretion is not a bad thing.
 |  I never heard of a private takings case before Kelo .  Didn't stop it from happening. |  
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		|  09-28-2006, 08:51 PM | #2346 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore I never heard of a private takings case before Kelo.  Didn't stop it from happening.
 |  So how exactly did the NYT embarrass itself with the NIE piece?
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		|  09-28-2006, 08:56 PM | #2347 |  
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		| Shape Shifter So how exactly did the NYT embarrass itself with the NIE piece?
 |  I'm not going to waste my time and cut into happy hour to link to over a hundred links because you're a lazy fuck.
 
Go to Instapundit, Malkin, Corner, Powerlineblog or WSJonline. |  
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		|  09-28-2006, 08:59 PM | #2348 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore I'm not going to waste my time and cut into happy hour to link to over a hundred links because you're a lazy fuck.
 
 Go to Instapundit, Malkin, Corner, Powerlineblog or WSJonline.
 |  What, exactly, did they get wrong?
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		|  09-28-2006, 09:09 PM | #2349 |  
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		| Originally posted by Shape Shifter So how exactly did the NYT embarrass itself with the NIE piece?
 |   the leading newspaper of the country isn't supposed to twist to justify its stories like Wonk or Ty trying to win a bet. The NYT should at least give the appearence of not being out just to do a hatch job on the Rs.
 
OAN did I hear right that the stock market hit an all time high today? is this bubble based like Clinton's?
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		|  09-28-2006, 09:50 PM | #2350 |  
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		| Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy As for your first point, what about blood spilled by the martyrs?  When Moses spilled blood was it not for God's benefit?
 |  What martyrs?  Were they spilling blood for God, or for the advancement of their faith?
 
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		| As for your second point, in Utah they tithe. |  I meant the Churches are tax-free, not the adherents.  Or are you saying that the LDS pays 10% to the State of Utah?
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		|  09-28-2006, 09:52 PM | #2351 |  
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		| Originally posted by SlaveNoMore ...and the Muslims would refute this by standing over your bleeding, headless infidel body and screaming "Allahu Akbar"!
 |  I don't exactly see how this refutes my point.
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		|  09-28-2006, 09:58 PM | #2352 |  
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		| Originally posted by sgtclub Well looky here - you and I finally found some common ground.
 |  I think it's happened once or twice before.  It's nice to see it happen every so often, don't you think?
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		|  09-28-2006, 10:04 PM | #2353 |  
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		| Originally posted by Hank Chinaski the leading newspaper of the country isn't supposed to twist to justify its stories like Wonk or Ty trying to win a bet.
 |  No, apparently twisting to weasel out of a bet is a Republican trait, however.
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		|  09-28-2006, 10:17 PM | #2354 |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk No, apparently twisting to weasel out of a bet is a Republican trait, however.
 |   this may all be moot soon. RT is mulling over an offer for a bit more than $160. you'll know if she accepts when all the lefty posts that score points are suddenly deleted.....well all yours will still be up, so you might not notice.
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		|  09-28-2006, 11:41 PM | #2355 |  
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		| Originally posted by taxwonk I think it's happened once or twice before.  It's nice to see it happen every so often, don't you think?
 |  Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  
 
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