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[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
You seriously think people are more aggressive with their tax returns when they disagree with government policy? Think about the natural converse of that observation.

People generally have exactly as much or as little government as 51% of them have asked for. The only question is whether the 49% who lost pay enough taxes for the petty rebellions you propose to achieve footnote materiality.

1. Absolutely. On the right, mostly.

2. Notice I used the word "trend" in my post a few times. Yes, in a static worldn - one in which trends never occured and scenarios never changged - I would agee with you.

The current absent projected revenue stands at $290 billion. Raise taxes and watch that number increase at a percent wildy above the percent of increased revenue picked up from the increase.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well, philosophically, why aren't you as mad about welfare receipients who could work and don't? Or people who retire early? They've deprived the country of tax receipts which would otherwise lower your tax burden.

I knowingly and willfully made less this year, which increased your tax burden. Are you mad at me?

I am mad at welfare recipients who can work and don't. But they aren't breaking the law. People who retire early are presumably still paying taxes, so this example is erroneous.

Why are you working so hard to defend an admitted criminal? Would you applaud a rapist who got off because he established his victim was a slut and he could have probably fucked her anyway?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The polls are rotten and corrupted by special interests, many would say. Nothing can be done to cure the ills of DC. The only avenue Snipes had was to do what he did, etc.

Of course, his case was insane, and he is a fool. But the millions who would quietly siphon what was otherwise taxable into their own pockets can't be prosecuted like Snipes. I'm not talking about widespread massive fraud. I'm talking about people en masse, millions of them, learning to keep small amounts of money Uncle Sam would otherwise receive. It's been happening for years and years, you might say, but when things get as tight as they will and people like Steve Forbes, Glenn Beck and Ron Paul, and the "Wikipedia knowledge" impact of the internet are done saturating the tax disobedience and how-you-can-get-away-with-a-lot-more-than-you-are messages on John Q. Public, I think we're going to see him utilizing knowledge Uncle Sam never figured he'd have, and it will be a serious problem.

It's already a serious problem. The tax gap is billions of dollars. And your argument that the govenrment is flawed, therefore all citizens are entitled to ignore the law is troublesome on a number of levels.

I assume you're just jacking with me. I can't believe that you're really as amoral as you are claiming to be for purposes of this discussion.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
*And once again, being perhaps the sole honest poster on here, I will tell you that . . . .

Why do you always hurt the ones you love?

S_A_M

P.S. Ty made me ask that.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
OTOH, we'd love to have you on our side, BUT you will have to think for yourself. you seem like you can. Courage?

Nice . . . quoting Rather in that post gets you an extra point.

S_A_M

P.S. But why do you bother to do what you do here? Couldn't you just go kick an associate?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I guess I believe you, if you promise it's all true, but something keeps bugging me: who was the mod that censored all the posts here? wasn't it one of the Dems?

You get like this every so often. I don't understand why the mood swings and sudden bursts of hostility. . . Adjust your meds.

Peace be with you Hank.

S_A_M

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
BTW, no one has ever conclusively won an argument by claiming the Ninth Circuit agreed with them, except in certain individual N.D. Cal. courtrooms, which this is not.

Hence the irony of the 9th vindicating me against 29 so-called "senators" who saw no problem with giving mandatory student fees (via unanimous consent) for things such as a $1,000 honoraria to Cesar Chavez to speak on campus. To this day, I am embarassed for some of the people on that body.

[SlaveNoMore]

Secret_Agent_Man
Why do you always hurt the ones you love?

S_A_M

P.S. Ty made me ask that.

Brava!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Nice . . . quoting Rather in that post gets you an extra point.

S_A_M

P.S. But why do you bother to do what you do here? Couldn't you just go kick an associate?

what I do here? people are waxing poetic about how the FCC will get reined right in once Hil or Obama takes over. I was the only to raise couple of facts. Clinton's FCC fined Stern. It started it. And Hil and Obama both voted to raise the FCC fine limit.

"What I do here" is be one of a very small number of people that actually know what they are talking about and who try to bring in facts to upgrade the conversation.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
"What I do here" is be one of a very small number of people that actually know what they are talking about and who try to bring in facts to upgrade the conversation.

I was not referring to the content of your posts.* I was referring to their tone and manner, and your undisguised/ill-disguised feelings for your fellow posters.

I suspect you could accomplish your laudable goals of spreading knowledge and elevating the discourse without dripping contempt. But perhaps not. Posting here is cheaper than therapy.

"If you want friends, you have to be friendly."

S_A_M

PS: * Ty told me to say that to throw you off.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I was not referring to the content of your posts.* I was referring to their tone and manner, and your undisguised/ill-disguised feelings for your fellow posters.

I suspect you could accomplish your laudable goals of spreading knowledge and elevating the discourse without dripping contempt. But perhaps not. Posting here is cheaper than therapy.

"If you want friends, you have to be friendly."

S_A_M

PS: * Ty told me to say that to throw you off.

a kinder gentler PB, you propose? Hmm. Yes. I am on board. Good idea!

I will not be the one to break this truce. I shall now be respectful to each poster here.

Good day for now, good sir!.

someone will have to get RT to stop saying my health care posts are stupid.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
people are waxing poetic about how the FCC will get reined right in once Hil or Obama takes over

Thank you for calling me poetic.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Thank you for calling me poetic.

you have earned that compliment. I often find your posts inspiring and thought provoking. You certainly have the ability to cause an opponent to see your side of an issue.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
a kinder gentler PB, you propose? Hmm. Yes. I am on board. Good idea!

I will not be the one to break this truce. I shall now be respectful to each poster here.

Good day for now, good sir!.

And to you, sir, and to you!

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
someone will have to get RT to stop saying my health care posts are stupid.

She is a hard case, that one.

S_A_M

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I am mad at welfare recipients who can work and don't. But they aren't breaking the law. People who retire early are presumably still paying taxes, so this example is erroneous.

Why are you working so hard to defend an admitted criminal? Would you applaud a rapist who got off because he established his victim was a slut and he could have probably fucked her anyway?

I am not defending him. As I said dozens of times, I would not engage in the most aggressive tactics some of these people have. I am merely citing a cultural trend toward supporting them. And I am blaming this crumbling of public "morality" about tax cheating on the fans of big govt who think they can engage in wars and pay for bloated entitlement programs on the taxpayers' back and then have the gall to act as though people who tell them to fuck off and refuse to pay their taxes are somehow "immoral."